Grapple Feedback

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ljhayes988

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Mahindra 5545
All,

Getting ready to by a root grapple for my new Mahindra 5545. I really like the 66" wicked grapple from EA, but the lead time is just too long for me to wait. As an alternative, I have looked at the Land Pride SGC1072 and it seems to be fairly close to the EA. My Mahindra dealer carries the Mahindra branded grapple, but there is not much info out there on specifications, steel, etc. It is also about $700 cheaper than the Land Pride.

I will initially use to clear land using the root rake bottom and then of course the grapple function to clean up and stack for burning. Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #2  
Check out Titian attachments. I am very pleased with mine. I doubt the size tractor you have will tear up a root rake style.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #3  
I have a SGC1572. Very well made and lots of grease points, you cant go wrong with it. That said, others are happy with their brands as well. Grapples are so useful most love them from day 1.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #4  
My MTL with John Deere type quick connect is arriving in a few hours. Can't wait!
 
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/ Grapple Feedback #7  
My MTL RK5 arrived today. I'm a little less enthused but I hope after the learning curve I will be happier with my decision. Probably not fair to make an assessment based on first impressions. Most of my misgivings about the grapple itself are nitpicking. Some of my disappointment is the fault of my tractor and loader performance. I have just recently purchased this tractor and been piecing together the loader. I bought a used 420 Loader and installed larger bore cylinders in hopes it would provide some decent power.

I have some piles of roots mixed with dirt and I was hoping to drive into them, shake the dirt out, and pile the roots and debris. Somewhere between the type grapple I chose and lack of power with a 31HP tractor I could not just scoop up the piles. Some attempts just got a little on the tips of the grapple and the tractor would almost bog down. Next time I need to try the load match function on the tractor to see if that helps. Other times if I got a good load it was slow to lift which is not grapple related but due to loader power. The dirt is wet and didn't shake out as easily as I hoped. The debris I managed to get up and pile still has a fair amount of dirt left in it. I might should have got a root grapple instead of a rock/root design. My thinking on that was I wanted to be able to capture smaller debris but turns out it holds the dirt as well. There is going to be a bigger learning curve using the diverter valve function than I anticipated.

I am use to operating a 15,000 LB 85 HP backhoe so anything else is kind of a let down as far as power is concerned.

I ordered my grapple online Saturday evening and got a call from them on Monday. They gave me a day I could expect it and they acknowledged my note that I wanted tip type ag connectors. I was impressed they had the unit in stock, made contact quickly, and delivered when they said they would. I think the price is unbeatable also.

The JD quick connect interface could use some improvements. The locating pins that secure the mount are longer than what comes on a JD bucket so that leaves a gap or looseness between the loader mount. Their pins also have a boss behind the plate which make that stand off from the back plate on the grapple. I don't think either will cause a problem but it's just a nitpicking finish issue for me.

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The hydraulic connectors were not the tip type I requested and were larger than what is on my tractor. The connectors I installed on my grapple lines were a match to the power beyond connectors that were on my 855 and also match the loader connectors on my 4310. Their claim that the unit came with 1/2" Ag connectors that match 99% of John Deeres may not take the smaller tractors into account. Turns out mine are all 3/8". I think when they called on Monday they should have asked me to get the actual numbers off my connectors so they could put compatible couplers on before they loaded it. Their delivery driver didn't have any others with him. The delivery driver was a MTL employee, not someone they hired to transport. He said the unit had flat faced skid steer couplers on it and they changed them to the ball type ag connectors before loading. Short of another solution I think they should have several type connectors with the unit so the delivery driver could leave you with a unit you could hook up and use. Add to that they used JIC connections on their hose ends so I couldn't just go to TS and buy couplers. I had to make a 60 mile trip to the hydraulic hose shop and buy $32 worth of couplers and adapters before I could try out my new attachment.

Their ad also says grease-able fittings but the cylinder pins are not on the unit I received. The grapple pins are grease-able and had been greased.

Other than that it's a decent looking, strong built, unit at a reasonable price.

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/ Grapple Feedback #8  
Love my Tomahawk Heavy Duty...1/2 steel. Greasable, twin lids20181026_114133.jpeg20181026_112729.jpeg
 
/ Grapple Feedback #9  
Like carrying a bowling ball around to play basketball.. way too big for the tractor and the FEL.. wondering how many pounds have been added, over and above what a normal bucket would be??
 
/ Grapple Feedback #10  
Like carrying a bowling ball around to play basketball.. way too big for the tractor and the FEL.. wondering how many pounds have been added, over and above what a normal bucket would be??
Mine is a 78" and my tractor is 81" wide. It's a good match. They make 72 and 66" models. It just looks big in the picture.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #11  
I bought the 60" which matches the width of my bucket and tractor. I think it probably weights 3 times what the bucket does. Tine spacing is about 6" and all 3/8" A36 steel. It would probably hold up on the front of my big tractor.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #12  
I have an SGC1072 and have had it 3 years. No issues with it and it has led a hard life clearing brush and packing logs.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #13  
I also have the SGC1072 and love it. I am hard on it and it has held up very well. Quality piece of equipment.
 
/ Grapple Feedback #14  
I have the Dirt Dog 60" grapple for my 4310. Due to the lack of a flat lower section it's kind of hard to scoop up debris so usually I push it all into a pile before I start grappling it up. I do like how it's fairly light and how much the lid can come into the frame to pick up object. I've actually gotten pretty good at setting boulders the think and use it quite often to buck logs into firewood. Originally got it with the idea to rip out autumn olive shrubs with it but the bucket with the piranha toothbar does a much better job. I just use it now to haul the shrubs to the burn pile now.

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/ Grapple Feedback #15  
ljhayes988 - remember, high $$$ implements are usually only a once in a lifetime purchase. So.....decide what you REALLY want/need and go for that.

My final "grapple list" had Land Pride and ANBO. Both were rock/root grapples. Reason - I have no brush to gather, I wanted shorter, stouter tines, knowing how implements fare out here - I wanted the most HD grapple around.

I went with the Land Pride SGC 1560
- available thru the local Kubota dealer
- Kubota dealer would instal 3rd function & grapple
- got a competitive price
- its a truly heavy duty grapple - 820# 60" wide
- even with the HD grapple I can still lift 3200# with the way I use the grapple

I've had this grapple now 5+ years. Never put the bucket back on the FEL. Never had a moments problem with the grapple and the only "damage" - some of the powder coat has chipped off most of the tines. I really dislike powder coat.

It wasn't cheap but I have no plans to ever purchase another grapple.

Grapple - - $3175 WR Long 3rd function - $1200
 
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Thanks so much for all your feedback. I ended up buying the Mahindra grapple from the dealer. Used the dickens out of it this past weekend. Worked like a champ. I will have to weld a short piece between the upper tines so it will close tight to pull fence posts. It isn't as heavy duty as some of the others, but we have very sandy soil here in Florida, so I think I'll be fine.
 
 

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