Growing Old With Dignity

[ultrarunner]

For those without kids I would imagine there is less left to chance as the prospect of the kids coming together or one of them just isn't there.

My attempt at estate planning but didn't get very far as far is distributing assets...

It is most definitely a concern but those without planning leave it to the laws of the State by default...

I wanted to set up something for the nieces and nephew... all great kids... but the parents said it was a terrible idea... saying the last thing someone needs is thinking they don't need to work to achieve and that is the fear they expressed.

On a closer to home front... I see it with Mom as I am her sole caregiver... she is and continues to be very frugal but Alzheimer's takes a toll... the body is healthy but the mind is lost.

 

[atsah]

Don't tell anyone if you leave something to them. After you die is when they find out, better that way.

 

[Sigarms]

Sixth commandment, though shall not KILL.

That goes for Baby's and thyself. Self defense is the only exception, its quite simple....

Im not asking any of you to convert to my way of thinking, Im just stating the FACTS according to Gods word. Though shall not kill. (Suicide included)

So, in your honest opinion, if you break ANY one of the 10 commandments, you go straight to **** with no chance to get into Heaven?

Dang, aint no one going to be in Heaven.

Find it also funny that in your opinion it's ok to kill for self defense.

 

[Sigarms]

For those without kids I would imagine there is less left to chance as the prospect of the kids coming together or one of them just isn't there.

My attempt at estate planning but didn't get very far as far is distributing assets...

It is most definitely a concern but those without planning leave it to the laws of the State by default...

I wanted to set up something for the nieces and nephew... all great kids... but the parents said it was a terrible idea... saying the last thing someone needs is thinking they don't need to work to achieve and that is the fear they expressed.

On a closer to home front... I see it with Mom as I am her sole caregiver... she is and continues to be very frugal but Alzheimer's takes a toll... the body is healthy but the mind is lost.

If we didn't have kids, everything would of went to a local animal shelter. As is, the animal shelter will still get some proceeds if there is anything left.

That said, if our boys prove that they can't handle finances when they get older, see no reason to give what you've earned all your life to someone who is just going to piss it away. Just my opinion.

The added reality is sometimes it's not the monatary things that mean the most to some. My one cousin (who is a single priest) really wanted my moms one cabinet that was in my grandmothers family. It wasn't a very nice piece of furniture IMO, just had a lot of sentimental value.

 

[Diggin It]

Find it also funny that in your opinion it's ok to kill for self defense.

And that brings us back to the topic at hand, full circle; self preservation of one's life above all else, no matter how much suffering or discomfort is involved. That is what leads the Medical World to believe they should use all efforts possible (no matter the cost) to save a patient who is unable to express their own wishes, or in some cases, even those who are (we're the professionals, we know better, even if you don't like it).

 

[Bird]

Sixth commandment, though shall not KILL.

That goes for Baby's and thyself. Self defense is the only exception, its quite simple....

Im not asking any of you to convert to my way of thinking, Im just stating the FACTS according to Gods word. Though shall not kill. (Suicide included)

I didn't find that "suicide included" in my Bible. I had an uncle who was a Baptist minister, married to my Dad's oldest sister. He taught in a Baptist seminary for many years. He was also something of a hypochondriac. And a few years after his wife, my favorite aunt, died of cancer, he was found dead on a sofa in the house (small house) with his car running in the garage and the door from the garage into the house open. It had smoked up the interior of the house a bit, too. I think there was no doubt that it was a suicide. His brother came to Dallas from Kansas for the funeral. But like you, he figured it was a sin to commit suicide, so, as the eldest family member he decided there should be no funeral. My uncle's pastor showed up at the funeral home, and I can tell you that Baptist minister (I'd guess to have been in his mid forties and one of those guys who looked like he could go bear hunting with a switch) immediately took charge, herded everyone into the "sanctuary" and proceeded. He definitely disagreed with your thinking, saying that the deceased had been a good Christian, but had fought a battle and lost. He left no doubt that he thought my uncle had gone to Heaven.

 

[ovrszd]

My father passed away 22 months ago. He was lucid until the day he started shutting down. He was at home and in failing health the last 5 years or so but soldered on with Mom's help.

When he passed away he was in the hospital for 5 days. EMS rushed him in on a Thursday afternoon. As power of attorney it was my decision whether to allow the hospital to try and save him. He had a similar situation a year ago and made it. He was still in his right mind and wanted to fight until the end. The doctor looked at me and I told him to go ahead.

He hung on until Monday night. I was sitting with him when he started shutting down. That morning when the family arrived we decided to send him to a room in the hospital to die.

He died that afternoon peacefully.

It's not an easy decision. Unless you have faced it you don't know. I am facing moving my mother in with me now. My only concern is her health and well being.

I have told my wife that if I am incapacitated to put me in a facility.

I don't judge the actions of others. Do what you think is right at the time, prepare, and do the best you can.

Sorry for your hard times. Proud of you for how you are handling them.

 

[ovrszd]

:thumbsup:

Quite odd how non-believers, here on TBN and across our country, go out of their way to mock God and those of us who believe in God and do our best to follow His Commandments.

Snap. Wish I'd said that. :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

But you went ahead and did it anyway...:confused3:

No he didn't. He stated his beliefs and feelings about a matter that has direct connection to the subject of this thread.

 

[ultrarunner]

Don't tell anyone if you leave something to them. After you die is when they find out, better that way.

Well some of the planning now requires recipients social security numbers which is how it all started...

I asked for the kids Social Security Numbers to make them beneficiaries of my 401k and Work Life Insurance...