GUN SAFE

   / GUN SAFE #31  
anyone had to retrieve anything from a safe that has been through a house fire?


Having served on the FD for a few years now, ive had 4 major "surround and drown" house fires. As part of the "overhaul" stage of what the FD does, we generally ask the home owners what if anything they want out of the house while we are still there. this often includes memento's, photos, clothes etc. one question we always ask is do they have a safe, and do they want us to retrieve it.

I have personally been on the overhaul crew responsible for locating and retrieving "fire safe" safes. 2 of which were larger gun safes.

One thing to note. Fire safe, does not mean water proof. and what does the FD use to put out the fire? Generally document storage/protection in generic sentry safe style safes was pathetic. Granted they didnt burn up, but the docs sat in a waterlogged safe for an extended period of time.

Of the 6 or so safes i have personally pulled out. 2 with nothing more than a key lock were unable to be opened normally. 2 with digital faces were melted off. these 4 had to be taken to the shop and cut/pryed/open. (this is were the fire dept with its jaws and cut off tools comes in handy) 2 larger gun safes with mechanical metal tumbler dials on the front still worked and opened with the dial.



Ask yourself what you want the protection from. if its from a smash and grab guy, or keep the kids out, then nothing more than a simple steel box is going to be enough.

if your serious about your stuff makeing it through a fire, bypass the basic stuff found at TSC etc and start shopping on CL for a commercial class type safe.
 
   / GUN SAFE #32  
One thing to note. Fire safe, does not mean water proof. and what does the FD use to put out the fire? Generally document storage/protection in generic sentry safe style safes was pathetic. Granted they didnt burn up, but the docs sat in a waterlogged safe for an extended period of time.

Good Point - How did the standup metal safes survive the water?
 
   / GUN SAFE #33  
Fire safe, does not mean water proof. .

gander and dick's both offer fire / water proof safe's in the larger units. ie.. 40 and 48 +

i picked up one.. like it..

soundguy
 
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  • Thread Starter
#34  
Ok I am now looking at the Fort Knox, the Amsec BF series, and the Sturdy safes. Sturdy runs about $2600 for the 5' model with fireproofing and the 5 gauge upgrade. Haven't gotten a price on the other two yet.

The only thing I don't like about the Sturdy safe is it only has 4 active bolts, but they swear it can't be pried open.

I will be going to see the Fort Knox this week. I will let you all know what I decide. Thanks for all the input.
 
   / GUN SAFE #35  
You might want to look at a modular safe. They're great if you're likely to move a couple several times and would have to have the safes carted up a set of basement stairs for example. I have a 26 gun Dakota and found it to be as stout as anything in its price range. The top of the line modular though is probably Zanotti. Here are their sites.

Interlocking break down gun safe | Zanotti Armor

Dakota Safe Company
 
   / GUN SAFE #36  
I have Browning Prosteel and have had no issues (no one has tried to damage it).

Man, I was waiting for someone to mention Browning.

I must be old, when I first got mine, Browning was the only brand available, never seen another at the time, all my friends had Browning as well.

JB
 
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  • Thread Starter
#37  
JB4310 said:
Man, I was waiting for someone to mention Browning.

I must be old, when I first got mine, Browning was the only brand available, never seen another at the time, all my friends had Browning as well.

JB

As much as I like Browning, they seem to be very overpriced for what they offer in the safe department. As one poster said, any 12 gauge safe can easily be broken into with a good ax. Browning safes are 11 gauge. A bit better but still not dose to what others, such as Sturdy, offers. Sturdy safes are 7 gauge, but they also offer a 5 gauge upgrade for an additional $180.

I watched a clip, on this thread, where 2 guys with crowbars got into a 12 gauge safe in a couple of minutes. I just can't see spending $1500 to $2000 on a safe that can be broken into in such a short time. I think the extra $1000 is money well spent for the peace of mind.
 
   / GUN SAFE #38  
   / GUN SAFE #40  
I have a big 72" tall Cannon. No issues. I needed the tractor loader to get it up to the house, then rollers to bring it in. It serves me more than gun storage. It made me get all my papers, titles, insurances, wills, passport and collection stuff all under one lock and in one place. Its been more for organization than I ever imagined. The 6' tall safe was $700 at Dunhams Sporting goods. A previous years' model with some scratches on it. Spray paint solved that issue. I've seen this same one at TSC but they sold out of it very quickly.
 

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