Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket?

   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #41  
Very typical that in North America, the TLB which is essentially a construction sites wheelbarrow, jack of all trades, does not come standard with a quick attach, while in Holland even 13 to 15 ton wheel loaders come standard with quick attach... even if you buy it to load sand and gravel in a concrete plant, you still buy QA because of the much higher resale value of both bucket and loader...
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #42  
Very typical that in North America, the TLB which is essentially a construction sites wheelbarrow, jack of all trades, does not come standard with a quick attach, while in Holland even 13 to 15 ton wheel loaders come standard with quick attach... even if you buy it to load sand and gravel in a concrete plant, you still buy QA because of the much higher resale value of both bucket and loader...

Typical North American. Agricultural equipment also 10 years behind.
 
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   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #43  
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #44  
Deere makes a pin disconnect for these backhoes.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #45  
What model B/H do you have ? I could look up the part number for you
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket?
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   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #47  
It’s a John Deere 310j. But 3 k or so is more than I want to spend.
What are you wanting a detach bucket for ? If it's forks only, I'd use the drive in forks like you have.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #48  
It's on my list of wants. In fact it's one of the main reasons why I bought a plasma cutter. I do have the clamp on bucket forks but not being close to the pivots they limit what I can pick up. Sooner or later I'll come across a set of used forks and then I'll probably move forward. It really comes down to do you want to spend a lot of money to have someone else make them for you or doing it yourself. To do it yourself you'll need a powerful welder,a plasma cutter (and air compressor), a drill press, a 4 1/2" grinder, and a saw (a dry cut and portable band saw would work well). Of course you need some skills but it's not the hardest project in the world to do. This is how I justify buying tools. I couldn't justify spending $3k to buy what's probably 1/5 the cost in steel. To me that $2500 can buy a lot of really useful tools. I just space it out over time picking the tools I could use first.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #49  
" This is how I justify buying tools. I couldn't justify spending $3k to buy what's probably 1/5 the cost in steel. To me that $2500 can buy a lot of really useful tools. I just space it out over time picking the tools I could use first. "

Al, sounds like we're "brothers from different mothers" :laughing:
Check out my pics a couple pages back for confirmation; now all I need is 4 times as much time and energy :rolleyes:...Steve
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket?
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The local metal shop has a CNC plasma table and they will trade for firewood so the real dollars isn’t very much. If they’re not busy I’d have them weld it but I’m capable of doing that.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #51  
" This is how I justify buying tools. I couldn't justify spending $3k to buy what's probably 1/5 the cost in steel. To me that $2500 can buy a lot of really useful tools. I just space it out over time picking the tools I could use first. "

Al, sounds like we're "brothers from different mothers" :laughing:
Check out my pics a couple pages back for confirmation; now all I need is 4 times as much time and energy :rolleyes:...Steve

Buying extra tools is just plain foolish.

I know you have considered cloning but be sure to read this first.

11 Things to Avoid When Cloning Yourself - Seeker
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #52  
Would a JD 48-58 adapter work?

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I had seen this style earlier, but with a 3,000 pound rating. This one is 5,000.

It can be made to fit a John Deere 310j.

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   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket?
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I had seen this style earlier, but with a 3,000 pound rating. This one is 5,000.

It can be made to fit a John Deere 310j.

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5000 isn’t enough. It’s 9500 pound breakout strength and 6500 full height lift.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #54  
5000 is about as good as it gets in a ssqa.

I found one to fit my 575E but it looks pretty light and had no listed rating.

I talked to MTL a while back and they said they would convert one of their extreme grapples to pun on my machine.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #55  
Call Washburn at 800-283-7107 and ask if they can build one strong enough for a John Deere 310j.
 
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   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #56  
Typical North American. Agricultural equipment also 10 years behind.

Actually, Europe is following the North American tillage practice and leaves the moldboard plough. I would say in Ag its the other way around.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #57  
You are probably right about tillage practices. However I think Europe has led the way for efficient hitching mechanisms (front and rear) to increase productivity while saving fuel and decreasing compaction.

I always felt they also excelled in developing mechanical harvesters for the crops typically left to human”reaping “in North America.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #58  
Unless you are planning on using other quick attach attachments I would stick with doing the hook design (as seen in posts 24 and 36 (the case backhoe)). You're not going to know for sure how much force is going to be on it. Just for safety reasons alone. If you can get a local machine shop to cut up the steel and you don't mind trading firewood then that sounds like a good option. Clearly the single cylinder Deere has made it more complicated.
 
   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #59  
Not more complicated, just different than tractor guys are used to.

Both of our Bobcats are single cylinder and the SSQA plate is very strong:

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The back side of a V417 plate:

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Here it is with over 6,000 pounds of force on the plate, note that the rear wheels are off of the ground :thumbsup:

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   / Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket? #60  
Call Washburn at 800-283-7107 and ask if they can build one strong enough for a John Deere 310j.
I did order mine from washburn. They claimed it should be good for 7000 lbs. I also bought two 7000 lb rated SSQA attachment blanks. The stuff seems like it it tough enough for my 210, but the 310 is like 60% more in every way. The washburn adapter that I received is a piss poor design, that can damage the curl cylinder, has very little roll back, and the lock pin handles are a nightmare to use. But hey, at least it was cheap! I just hope that they can do a better job on the drawing board for the next guy...
 

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