Has Mahindra Passed Deere in sales?

[brucew44guns]

I try to buy American made stuff as much as I can. I do look at labels, and take stock of some China made item, Korea, Japan, Pakistan or wherever. It's comforting to me---to know, that maybe I helped keep an American worker on his job for 1 or 2 minutes, because I cared to look where the item came from. No Mahindras in my future as near as I can tell, regardless of how good they are.

 

[HayDR]

Recently, I had a company tell me that they had a 70 % Plus market share in all Drum Mower Sales in the USA. I have yet to determine, how that could be proved or disproved? Seems you would have data from all manufacturers that sold in the USA. I am like a few of you, I believe data can be manipulated and I feel that may be happening with this Mahindra ad? Ken Sweet

Just like I question the credibility of a dealer in KY that claimed the Darell Harp manufactured Kodiak cutters.

June Tractor Sales

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

The big issue that I take with Mahindra is that their talk does not line up with their own SEC financial reports. There are lots of numbers in those reports that come no where close to backing up their claims. If it was a true statement I think they would be public about the criteria they are using to make that statement.... of course if they are silent than no one can fact check them.

 

[Rob-D]

When I was a kid in the fifties America was proud of its products. We all knew Germany made good stuff but it didn't stop our industry.
I see Ford is claiming that their Fusion and other cars are competing and doing well against foreign cars now. I hope so.

My new JD tractor reminds me of the old days. It's made very well in my opinion and I'm glad someone in this country got to put food on his table because of me.

The same thing goes in my town. When I was broke I had to go to Wally World for stuff just to make ends meet but I always said that if things got better I'd buy locally and now I do. We try to support local produce and farmers and buy from local merchants too.

When I go to a web site and there is an "American made" it influences my decision. If I lived in India I'd buy a Mahindra but I don't.

My Subaru is made in Indiana by American workers and it's a good car in my view. Not to many products use 100% parts from any country but at least lets put our workers on the assembly line and not a 60,000 sq. foot factory with 40 employees.

That's my two cents.
Rob

 

[/pine]

The big issue that I take with Mahindra is that their talk does not line up with their own SEC financial reports

where are you finding financial filings for Mahindra?...they are not listed on any American exchange and as far as I know they are not required to file anything with the SEC...??

 

[/pine]

I try to buy American made stuff as much as I can. I do look at labels, and take stock of some China made item, Korea, Japan, Pakistan or wherever. It's comforting to me---to know, that maybe I helped keep an American worker on his job for 1 or 2 minutes, because I cared to look where the item came from. No Mahindras in my future as near as I can tell, regardless of how good they are.

Your Deere tractor and your Subaru car are no more American than Mahindra's as far as where the parts come from...

Mahindra is no different than Deere or Kubota...most of the manufacturing is done in India, Japan, China, Korea etc...etc... and assembly in the US...


Mahindra News & Events - press releases, articles and new product announcements

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Mahindra Corporate

According to that they sold 175,000 total tractors last year. Thats peanuts.

Mahindra is no different than Deere or Kubota...most of the manufacturing is done in India, Japan, China, Korea etc...etc... and assembly in the US...

This is true, but as someone who sells tractors from the US, Japan, Turkey, Check Republic, and soon Korea. There are HUGE differences in the quality and engineering comming from these countries.

 

[/pine]

According to that they sold 175,000 total tractors last year. Thats peanuts.

according to the page below they sold 1 million (question about a typo or misplaced comma?)tractors in fiscal Year 2010

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[Gale Hawkins]

according to the page below they sold 1 million (question about a typo or misplaced comma?)tractors in fiscal Year 2010

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Anyone seen any world wide tractor sales numbers?

 

[DavesTractor]

Mahindra Corporate

According to that they sold 175,000 total tractors last year. Thats peanuts.



This is true, but as someone who sells tractors from the US, Japan, Turkey, Check Republic, and soon Korea. There are HUGE differences in the quality and engineering comming from these countries.

Neil, we have been through this before. Show me the total amount of TRACTORS sold by Kubota last year and tell me if it is over the "peanuts" number of 175K. Don't count mowers, UTVs, loaders, backhoes, coffee mugs, or whatever else Kubota sells. Just tractors. Kubota sold less than "peanuts" by your own definition. :laughing:

What some of you guys are missing, and it has been pointed out a few times, is that this is for global world-wide sales. Mahindras numbers in the USA are much much lower than JD, Kubota, etc. Just as JD's numbers are way way lower in India, even though they have been there for about 20 years.

And Neil will like to say that they are mostly Mitsubishi tractors. Globally that is not true, not even close. In the USA, all the 33HP and down tractors are Mitusbishi built, but the larger tractors are Mahindra designed and built. We have a simple 25 series, basic and inexpensive, a 30 series utility line and the deluxe 35 and 60 series. Go sit on a Mahindra 5035 and see what you think. It is quite nice, and it is Mahindra designed and built...as most of the tractors are.

Mahindra has 100,000 employees and is a roughly $7B company. That is probably only a third the size of JD (guessing, so forgive me) since Mahindra sells a much narrower range of products, but it is the total tractor count by brand sold in 2009 they are counting. And I think JD would acknowledge that, reluctantly. It was only a couple of years ago that a JD exec predicted this might happen.

I'm a Mahindra dealer, but I'm the first to acknowledge that Kubota, JD, NH, etc have a much more established USA dealer base, much higher USA market share, etc. But can you blame Mahindra for advertising such an accomplishment?

I know I am in a JD portion of this forum, so I understand the sensitivity. JD builds a great tractor, and as an American I am proud of them, especially proud that they would still build a few models of tractors in the USA. But no longer is this a USA vs foreign debate, since all the major tractor companies are very international in sales, production, marketing, etc.