Have You Ever Weighed Your Truck?

[wkpoor]

On a side note for getting your stuff weighed. I weigh at the local mill. It costs me nothing because since I buy little things like salt and chicken feed there and I always let them have the change. Doesn't sound like much but a few pennys here and there add up and I tell him to put it toward his scale fund. I can pull across whenever I like for free.

 

[LBrown59]

Just one question LBrown? You seem to ask a lot of questions which is good. This has been going on for some time.
1*Are you going to go for it and take the plunge and buy a HD truck and trailer?
And if you do will you use either one to justify a $30,000 rig? I know I could not justify it for just toting my tractors around and an occasional broken down second vehicle.
2*You could have a tow truck come out 100 times at $300 a tow and still be money ahead because you will need to plate, insure, and maintain these new toys.
Chris

1*Depends on the info I gather and my conclusions about said info.
2*But it could get inconveniently unhandy doing it 5 or 6 days a week.

I did find a 2001 Ford f350 1 ton with a 7.3 power stroke.
It's a standard cab but I don't know if it's a long bed or not.
Don't know the milage on it yet either.
Want to look at it and drive it tomorrow.
I haven't driven a full sized pick up since I bought my 1989 Nissan pick up back in 1989
After driving nothing but import pickups for nearly 20 years I'll bet driving that thing will feel like a monster to me.

 

[LBrown59]

For sure you will need a 1 ton. Remember a dump bed adds 2,000# or more to the trucks empty weight so if you are planning on hauling 4,000# in the dump bed you will need a dually.


Chris

What's the best I could haul in a Single rear wheel 1 ton ?
with and with out a dump bed.
Thanks LB.
I'd like to stay away from dual wheels.

 

[Ductape]

If its a standard cab, it will be a longbed. Only the extended and crewcabs were available with the shorter beds.

FWIW, as long as I keep my foot out of it, I can do better than 20mpg with my 350. Not bad for a 7000lb truck. A couple hundred thousand miles on a diesel F-350 is no big deal...... just getting broke in at that point.

 

[thatguy]

My 2002 Dodge 2500, quad cab, 4x4, cummins weighs about 6950#, full of fuel with me in it.. I was shocked that it weighed that much.. I am running passenger car tags that top off at 7500#'s, so I dont have a lot of legal capacity..

The weigh station LEO told me they love to catch dually pickups running passenger tags that are overweight without a load..

Brian

 

[Marlowe]

I've never weighed mine but it did lose weight recently. I cleaned out my tool box. Decided I didn't really need eight adjustable wrenches after all. And that was only the beginning. I took a bunch of really crazy stuff out of that tool box, not to mention what was riding around in the bed. Gets better mileage now too.

 

[LBrown59]

The weigh station LEO told me they love to catch dually pickups running passenger tags that are overweight without a load..

Brian

How can something that's not loaded be over loaded?

 

[farmboy12]

Passenger tags have a limit. In his case, 7500# is the limit. Some dually p/u weigh over 7500#. It's not that the truck's overloaded, it's that it's illegal to have that much weight on a passenger vehicle tag.


Kyle

 

[QRTRHRS]

On a side note for getting your stuff weighed. I weigh at the local mill. It costs me nothing because since I buy little things like salt and chicken feed there and I always let them have the change. Doesn't sound like much but a few pennies here and there add up and I tell him to put it toward his scale fund. I can pull across whenever I like for free.

If you are trying to save pennies, stay away from the truckstop scales. They are always the most expensive.

I used to haul my garbage to a local transfer station where I paid by the ton for disposal. Scaling was incidental so it was basically free. I regularly purchased hay by the ton so would scale at either a local feed mill or a coal yard to scale both loaded and unloaded. They would charge me about a whopping two bucks for a four axle weigh (pick up and trailer) for both of my weighs. I think the local truckstop was up to 2.50 per axle at that time each time over the scale.

PS While we are on the subject of scaling, a little "scale etiquette" is in order. Come to a stop prior to pulling on to the scale. Ease on to the scale and come to a gentle stop. True you are only driving a pickup which is not nearly as heavy as a tri-axle dump but scales are touchy and you do not want to upset the operator.

If you have two way traffic, take your turn. If you have time and an obvious commercial vehicle is in line opposite of you, why not let them go through? Time is money. Chances are, that other driver has the routine down and will make haste where as you are a "newbie" and are on a learning curve.

 

[wkpoor]

The place where I scale has no operator. I scale myself. I just pull on, get out, go inside and look at the numbers and leave. Mill owner knows me and doesn't even get out of his seat in the office unless I need a slip for something.

 

[hosejockey2002]

What's the best I could haul in a Single rear wheel 1 ton ?
with and with out a dump bed.
Thanks LB.
I'd like to stay away from dual wheels.

LB,

My truck is a 2005 2500HD, basically a SRW "1-ton" with a 9200 GVWR. Stock from the factory it will haul about 3900 pounds, including driver, equipment, etc. I've got a Maxi-dump insert installed, and with the insert, a full tank of gas, me, and assorted miscellaneous stuff it weighs 6500 pounds. That leaves me 2700 to put in the bed without exceeding the factory GVWR. I've loaded it heavier, and it drives and handles fine up to about 10,000. I've got Timbrens installed that helps with rear end sag. With an overload spring pack and a 19.5 Rickson conversion for the wheels and tires I would not hesitate to go up to 12,000. The truck has plenty of power and fantastic brakes, and the 10.5" AAM axle is rated by the axle manufacturer at 10,000 lbs.

 

[garydc]

Diamondpilot I have backed the tractor on to try and found it was better driven on, the truck actually handles it well,towed the kioti home to Ontario from Tennesse with no problems at all. Gary

 

[LBrown59]

LB,

My truck is a 2005 2500HD, basically a SRW "1-ton" with a 9200 GVWR. Stock from the factory it will haul about 3900 pounds, including driver, equipment, etc.
1* I've got a Maxi-dump insert installed, and with the insert, a full tank of gas, me, and assorted miscellaneous stuff it weighs 6500 pounds. That leaves me 2700 to put in the bed without exceeding the factory GVWR. I've loaded it heavier, and it drives and handles fine up to about 10,000. I've got Timbrens installed that helps with rear end sag. With an overload spring pack and a 19.5 Rickson conversion for the wheels and tires I would not hesitate to go up to 12,000. The truck has plenty of power and fantastic brakes, and the 10.5" AAM axle is rated by the axle manufacturer at 10,000 lbs.

1*This is what I'm wanting to do with either a 3/4 or 1 ton.
Either a dump insert or install a dump kit.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Diamondpilot I have backed the tractor on to try and found it was better driven on, the truck actually handles it well,towed the kioti home to Ontario from Tennesse with no problems at all. Gary

Good deal. Those Dakotas are tough. A guy that works at the airport I fly from tows a mini excavator with a late 90's 4x4 318 powered long bed.

Chris

 

[hosejockey2002]

1*This is what I'm wanting to do with either a 3/4 or 1 ton.
Either a dump insert or install a dump kit.

I don't know much about dump kits, but my dump insert is one of the best investments I've ever made. It works perfectly every time, just push the button and up it goes. You can unlatch the tailgate at either the top of bottom depending on what you are dumping. Installation involves minimal modification to the truck, just some extra holes in the bed. You can actually install one using the existing bed mounting holes, however the shop that installed mine fabricated some large brackets and bolted those to the truck frame, and then bolted the insert's subframe to those brackets. Might be overkill, but I know it's not coming loose.

A potential con is that the insert adds a few inches to the load height of your pickup. You might have a tough time loading with your BX tractors. Depending on terrain it can be a challenge to load mine with my Kioti CK20. You can always remove the taigate and load it from the rear rather than over the side.
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[LBrown59]

A potential con is that the insert adds a few inches to the load height of your pickup.
1*You might have a tough time loading with your BX tractors. Depending on terrain it can be a challenge to load mine with my Kioti CK20. You can always remove the taigate and load it from the rear rather than over the side._______

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1*I'd bring any truck home and see if the bx23 fel would clear the sides before i bought a truck.
Something else i may consider is a 1 ton flat bed with a dump feature.
I might even be able to unload a flat bed by simply pushing or scooping the load off from the side with the Loader and or Back hoe , just as i'm thing about doing with a trailer.

 

[thatguy]

How can something that's not loaded be over loaded?

Its because their empty weight was greater than their registered gross weight.. Hence overweight..

Brian

 

[Ken45101]

One thing I was a little surprised about was how much weight my "one ton" (being a SRW)will haul based on the tag in the door jamb....... over two ton, if I could ever load the axles properly.

Chuckle, chuckle. That may be impossible.

We had a 2002 F-250HD diesel. Our new living quarters horse trailer was 300# overweight on the truck rear axle although way underweight for the truck GVW (800# IIRC).

We upgraded to a C3500.

Ken

 

[Diamondpilot]

Chuckle, chuckle. That may be impossible.

We had a 2002 F-250HD diesel. Our new living quarters horse trailer was 300# overweight on the truck rear axle although way underweight for the truck GVW (800# IIRC).

We upgraded to a C3500.

Ken

Your F-250 has 1,500# less weight carry capacity compared to a F-350 SRW, so yes his will handle the weight a F-250 will not. That is why I always steer 3/4 ton buyers to a SRW 1 ton, lot more truck for only about $600 more.

Chris

 

[rutwad]

I was weighing mine on a weekly bases last year when scrap was high, The truck and trailer run 14,400 to 14,600 empty depending on the fuel I carry. The biggest load of prepaired iron I have had on it was 34,000 which seemed little much for my truck and trailer, but I got it there with out any issues.

WOW, on a 14k trailer? I hope you did not have far to go!