HD F-150 or 3/4 ton truck?

[TMGT]

Well, there it is.

I have no idea why GM with this route. It makes no sense to me. It seems to be a step in the wrong direction.

I just looked up a 2017 2500 chevy with a 6200lb capacity rear axle, it's a full floater just like the previous axles. I believe they are still using the AAM axle same as Dodge.
Not sure why it says semi floating on that sheet.
I'm using the ASE definition for semi vs. full, maybe it's semantics with gm?

 

[TMGT]

I doubt you could get the superduty pointed toward a parking garage. That truck has about a 60 foot turning radius. The dump actually drives pretty good.

I use to have a 2000 F550 cc longer whelbase with a western hauler type bed, 2wd that I couldn't make a U turn on a 4 lane divided highway workout almost hitting the guardrail, decent sized medium too.

I would have loved to have then turning radius of that older SD!

I was once running with a buddy of mine, he was driving the low 5th wheel parking lot, I had my 50ft wedge behind the 550. Went to pull into a dealer and I told him I wouldn't be able to make the turn, he laughed since he could make it with the low 5th.
He couldn't believe it when I had to do a multi point turn to jackknife the truck to get in there, worst truck I ever owned.

 

[om21braz]

I drive nearly 50K per year and have never seen a flipped rig. Sen one or two on the net.

Not nearly the issue you are making it out to be!

It probably is relatively rare, but I know of one. My neighbor was towing his RV with a 1/2 ton Suburban on I-40 near Asheville, NC and had a strong wind blow camper and Suburban over on the side. The good - no one injured, the bad? - he won't tow a lawnmower trailer with less than a dually now.

 

[sd455dan]

Do you have any specifics? Dodge and ford through '17 I know use a full floater as does gm I believe.
The description above makes it sound like the axles with integral bolt on outer hubs are semi floater but they are not, there is still a independent hub from the axle that the the wheel attaches to.

I'm kinda curious what axle the new 150 has under it? Haven't looked them up and a quick search didn't really bring up anything.

would like to know also - if they have switched to full floaters , my hat is off to them.

 

[TMGT]

would like to know also - if they have switched to full floaters , my hat is off to them.

If you're refering to the F150, all I found was that it's a heavier duty axle buy nothing else. Maybe I should stop by the dealer one day.

 

[mike69440]

Some F-150's and the Lincoln trucks came with a 10-1/4 ring gear rear axle I believe. At least in years past.

The std HD towing big engine option (3.5 and 5.8L) ones are 9-3/4 and the regular F-150 come with an 8.8

Not sure what axle comes with a 2.7L with tow package.

I think ther is more than one style 9-3/4" axle.

 

[gladehound]

Some F-150's and the Lincoln trucks came with a 10-1/4 ring gear rear axle I believe. At least in years past.

The std HD towing big engine option (3.5 and 5.8L) ones are 9-3/4 and the regular F-150 come with an 8.8

Not sure what axle comes with a 2.7L with tow package.

I think ther is more than one style 9-3/4" axle.

I found these in another forum (attached). Apparently there are two 9 3/4" axles - standard and HD. The fluid capacity is different. But even the HD is still a c-clip axle - not full floating. Axle capacity (4,800 pounds) is only a few hundred pounds more than the standard 9-3/4". This is all from 2015 documents. Don't know if anything changed for 2018. I'm guessing not.

 

[gladehound]

Resurrecting this because I discovered a game changer that affects my decision. The F250/F350 are out because they wont fit in the underground garage at work. Too tall. I need to be under 80".

This leaves the F150HD, Ram 2500 diesel, or Ram 3500 diesel (don't prefer GM for no logical reason). I don't really want the Ram 2500 diesel because the payload is marginal at around 2,000 pounds with CC & 4WD. This is the same as a non HD lightly optioned F150 XLT and 800 pounds south of the same F150 with HDPP.

So as strange as it sounds, I'm deciding between ordering a 2018 F150XLT HDPP CC 4WD 3.5EB versus a used 2014-2016 Ram 3500 CC 4WD Diesel. The big thing that makes me hesitate on the Ram 3500 diesel is reliability.

While I'd prefer the heavier duty platform, I absolutely don't want a truck that leaves me sit because of some exhaust issue! And I think I'll have more trust in the F150HD. Is my fear unfounded? Or should it be a real concern?

 

[dodge man]

I'd get what you want and/or need. That said, are you sure a Ram 3500 will be low enough to get in an underground garage? I'd make sure of that first. I bought a F150 5 days ago so you can guess my advice, but with a name like Dodgeman, I love the Cummins also.

 

[Sysop]

Just recently read an article that the F150 costs an estimated $482 per year to maintain, the least expensive (and apparently trouble-free) of all the full size trucks. Ram are the most expensive, with the Ram 1500 costing an estimated $863 per year and the Ram 3500 costing an estimated $1244 per year. Even a GMC Canyon is more expensive to maintain at an estimated $572 per year...

Source: Most Expensive Vehicles To Maintain And Repair