Heating Ohio pole barn

[Solar07]

Hello all,

Last year I decided to heat my pole barn here in the winter months of Ohio. It's a 40x60 barn however I'm heating a 40x40 section as the 20 section is walled and doomed off for tractor and truck.

Anyway, thru a friends recommendation I purchased a hot blast 1500 on sale for 900 bucks at rural king. It has two blowers so We ran some duct work off it up ward and then pointed em down in a couple sections of the barn. Long story short it is not working well. I have only insulated the roof panels at this stage and I know I need to finish the walls which will help a lot but I still don't know that this system was the right route. It just eats wood and doesn't heatake much.

Anyone else heating with a hotblast as a primary source in barns? Any mods I should look into or do I need to look into a completely different stove? I can take pics if needed to tell the story.

Thanks all

 

[LD1]

The furnace is not your issue. The lack of insulation is.

You say you insulated the roof panels.....with what? R-value?

I heated a 30 x 30 x 9' ceiling polebarn....R13 walls and R19 blown in ceiling......kept it nice and toasty with a single barrel stove.

Current shop is a 40x40 with 14' ceilings. R19 walls and R30+ (blow in) in the ceiling. I have a brunco 120 which is similar in size to the hot-blast 1500 I believe. Has a single blower. Where the air comes out the top, its not tied to any duct work, just blows across the shop with a single pieces of duct work that changes the direction of air from blowing up, to blowing horizontal. This shop also has a 18w x 12h hole on the front that is plugged with an insulated garage door. As well as 4 36" x 48" windows.

In the middle of the coldest spell of winter, I can have you working in your underwear if I wanted.

Insulate the walls, get at least R30 in the ceiling, then enjoy the heat.

 

[Rustyiron]

What LD1 said!
Insulate (a lot) first !

 

[Deere Dude]

I used a 110,000 btu torpedo heater in my 36x54 uninsulated pole shed in Wisconsin when I HAD to do something in the winter in the pole shed. I had to stand 10 feet away from it to feel anything to speak of. It would maybe raise the temp in the building from 20 degrees to 22 degrees after an hour or two. Of course maybe it was just getting warmer outside.

I know it is a lot of work but insulation is the only thing that will help.

 

[LD1]

Hello all,

Just to give you a crude idea.....

See what the weather has done in the last 24 hours. It made it to ~65 degrees where I live yesterday. Woke up this morning to ~32-35 degrees and hasnt come up at all today.

So needless to say when I was working at the shop yesterday had all the doors open and a nice 65 degrees in there.

With no heat going....what is the temp of your shop today? being 32 and windy (might be a little warmer where you are as I am about 30 miles north), I am betting your shop, with no wall insulation, would be in the 35 degree ballpark.

I havent been at my shop all day. Just went down there to fetch something......nice 58*.

Get some insulation and you will not need to burn near as much wood, as you will retain heat. IT also makes it alot cooler in the summer.

 

[Solar07]

Just to give you a crude idea.....

See what the weather has done in the last 24 hours. It made it to ~65 degrees where I live yesterday. Woke up this morning to ~32-35 degrees and hasnt come up at all today.

So needless to say when I was working at the shop yesterday had all the doors open and a nice 65 degrees in there.

With no heat going....what is the temp of your shop today? being 32 and windy (might be a little warmer where you are as I am about 30 miles north), I am betting your shop, with no wall insulation, would be in the 35 degree ballpark.

I havent been at my shop all day. Just went down there to fetch something......nice 58*.

Get some insulation and you will not need to burn near as much wood, as you will retain heat. IT also makes it alot cooler in the summer.

You nailed it. Thats about what it was today. I don't currently have a ceiling. The roof panels are laying on 4x6 sheets of foam board. My garage doors are insulated. I just added those. Any chance you could tell.me how and what you insulated your walls and ceiling and how you did your ceiling? Pics would be great but I dont want to ask too much. I had a company come quote me to add a ceiling and insulate the walls and they wanted 13k. I said I can build another **** barn for that. Albeit another cold one ha.

Thanks for you replies

 

[Deere Dude]

come quote me to add a ceiling and insulate the walls and they wanted 13k. I said I can build another **** barn for that. Albeit another cold one ha.

Thanks for you replies

That's funny.:laughing::laughing:

 

[LD1]

Are your trusses 4' centers?

I used metal "liner" panel for the ceiling. It's the same as the painted siding and roofing on most pole barns. Just don't have quite as good paint,and no warranty. But it's cheaper. Bout 50 cents a sq ft. So a 40x40 should run you about $800 in material for ceiling.

On top of that is 100 bags of blow in insulation. The cellulose stuff that Menards sells and used their blower. 100 bags puts it 12" thick give or take. And is about $6 a bag.

So, about $1400 covers the ceiling.

The walls, I used r-19 Kraft faced batts/rolls. And covered with OSB for the walls and painted. And IIRC, wall insulation. For r19 was somewhere around 30 cents a sq ft. And I needed about 1800 sq ft. So about $600 there. And osb being about $8 a sheet, thats 25 cents a sq ft. So another $500-$600 to cover the walls.

So....$1200 for walls, and $1400 ceiling.

You may have to add some lumber to the walls for "studs" to attach insulation and sheathing to. I didn't build "pole barn" style. Rather block foundation and studs.

I have a thread detailing the build, I'll see if I can find it for you

 

[LD1]

Here
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/345632-pictures-my-garage-build.html#post4251511

 

[Solar07]

Are your trusses 4' centers?

I used metal "liner" panel for the ceiling. It's the same as the painted siding and roofing on most pole barns. Just don't have quite as good paint,and no warranty. But it's cheaper. Bout 50 cents a sq ft. So a 40x40 should run you about $800 in material for ceiling.

On top of that is 100 bags of blow in insulation. The cellulose stuff that Menards sells and used their blower. 100 bags puts it 12" thick give or take. And is about $6 a bag.

So, about $1400 covers the ceiling.

The walls, I used r-19 Kraft faced batts/rolls. And covered with OSB for the walls and painted. And IIRC, wall insulation. For r19 was somewhere around 30 cents a sq ft. And I needed about 1800 sq ft. So about $600 there. And osb being about $8 a sheet, thats 25 cents a sq ft. So another $500-$600 to cover the walls.

So....$1200 for walls, and $1400 ceiling.

You may have to add some lumber to the walls for "studs" to attach insulation and sheathing to. I didn't build "pole barn" style. Rather block foundation and studs.

I have a thread detailing the build, I'll see if I can find it for you

Yea they are 4' on centers...


Great info, thank you. On the Bats, did you tape it, or just staple it overlapping? And what did you mean by IIRC the walls, did you do that on top of the Bats?

I see you are in central ohio, I'm just below Columbus in London Ohio where it nears Grove city. Where abouts are you? Im Actually originally from South of Athens in albany.