Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway

   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #31  
Maybe get a snow removal tool that the spouse likes to use and then it takes a load off of you. That is what I did with the mowing. The wife likes to mow with the X744 so that allows me to mow other areas or do other chores.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #32  
I would second the idea of seriously reducing the acreage you are mowing. Unless you are using those acres as a sports facility or something, giant lawns are a money pit. Now some of us are older folks who maybe just like to ride around and mow while we contemplate life...IIRC, you mentioned no kids yet, which implies you are young and considering a family. You can always reclaim the land down the road if you decide you really want to finish mow that many acres in the future.

I don't live near snow now, but I've spent about half of my life in it. You will be best off with some form of bladed plow and a good sized blower. You not only get snow, but it stays cold. Plows alone end up with nowhere left to push snow in a heavy year. A blower will allow you to move snow further and over the piles if needed. A loader may well be needed to move piles if you use a blade.

My advice, keep your mower, figure out how much time you want to mow and reduce the 'lawn' accordingly. Add a tractor. It can handle a blade, blower and loader...you may even like a rotary sweeper for those 'lite' snows of 1-2 inches. A truck can only use a blade.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #33  
If you want to mow faster, get a faster zero turn. Commercial units from Scag, Hustler and other brands will mow twice as fast as your current zero turn. Look for the acres per hour capacity and mowing speed. Typical homeowner zero turns go 5-6 mph. Commercial can go up to 15. No tractor will mow as well as a good zero turn.

A tractor makes a very good snow removal machine. I have a plow on front and a blower on back so I can handle any storm that comes my way. Someday I will upgrade to a cab and front snow blower or a rear pull style blower. A beater plow truck will plow very well, but a tractor can handle a lot more chores that a plow truck cannot.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #34  
Hey folks, looking for some advice. Just purchased first home in upstate NY and am seeking opinions on a machine to maintain it. Property is 10 acres, ~6 of which are very flat, mowable lawn with minimal obstacles. The rest is wooded/swampy, which i won't be doing much work in. Possibly some woodcutting for garage woodstove at some point. The driveway is shared, but owned by me. My section total is ~1200 feet, flat, paved with two straight shots (one of which is wooded). Snowfall is about 75 inches per year. We always get a couple noreasters that will dump 1+ feet, sometimes 2 or 3.

I currently am using a 54' Husqvarna ZTR that takes me ~3hr to mow the lawn. At full clip and mowing only once per week, it does tend to bog down/clog at times, slowing me down further. For snow removal, I currently have nothing. I also have no truck. So now to the point, i am exploring getting a machine that could handle both duties, while keeping both speed and price in mind. The alternative would be a used plow truck, while keeping the lawn duties assigned to a ZTR(possible upgrade in future to 62'). A crucial point is that i work 13 hour shifts 3-4 days in a row, so speed is fairly important when im already waking at 430 a.m. I know a truck wins here, but with current truck prices, is a beater plow truck going to be worth the headache? No interest in buying new. Ive also got an opportunity to buy a 2006 trailblazer with a small homesteader plow for ~5k. I fear this will spend more time being fixed on my lift than actually plowing. Final option is to get a quote for a plow guy, which keep in mind my neighbor would halve to split cost.

So obviously you all are biased to tractors :), so thoughts and opinions on what you would do and what size/model of tractor if so? Thanks!!
I'm mowing 3.5 acres, all hills and snowplowing a 300 ft driveway, also a hill, but paved. Each task takes about 4 hours. I'm using a 27hp diesel sub compact tractor and dearly wish I could afford something with more hp and a cab. Your weather can't be a whole lot different than mine, but the topography probably is. There are times in the winter that I have chains on all 4 wheels and still have trouble getting up the driveway. Another couple of hundred pounds of weight would come in handy. If it weren't for the fact that I have to keep the tractor stuck in 4 wheel drive in the winter, and most of the summer I would not be able to complete either job. My blower in on the back of the tractor because I can't take care of drifts and road plow piles without using the bucket on the front. I should have bought a tractor with at least 30hp and the cab. I've got a 6ft belly mower and that works well enough but I wind up finishing the job with a 21in walk behind and a weedwhacker. Every tractor manufacturer has some built in problems along with the "safety" switches that cause significant problems, always at the most inconvenient times. So my advise is to buy whatever color you feel comfortable with the deal and overbuy in regards to size. But don't forget to consider that you'll need parts and repairs sooner or later and how far you'll have to travel to get them. I feel bigger can be better. Cheeahs (Cheers with a Maine accent)
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #35  
Definitely get something with a blower. Part of my driveway is in the woods, too, which I cannot plow - windrows build up very quickly.

I chose a Kubota BX25, and then bought a 54” rear-mount blower. Blows thru anything.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #36  
If you go for a tractor, know that as your skill level goes up so does mission creep. The weight of the tractor counts traction wise so go up a size on what you think you need.
Questions to ask are: how much power does a 6", 9" 12" snow fall require to plow or blow?
How much space do you have to push snow too?
How do the neighbours deal with snow etc?
good luck
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #37  
I have 80 acres and a mile long gravel driveway. I use the Kubota M6040 and HD rear blade to keep the driveway open in the winter. Same tractor and other implements for summer maintenance. I have no need for any type of tractor mounted rotary cutter.

I maintain approximately two acres of lawn with my JD X570 riding mower. Most of my "lawn" is actually mowed field grass. It's mowed/maintained mainly for fire protection.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway
  • Thread Starter
#38  
Maybe get a snow removal tool that the spouse likes to use and then it takes a load off of you. That is what I did with the mowing. The wife likes to mow with the X744 so that allows me to mow other areas or do other chores.
Genius. The wife keeps telling me she wants to learn the ZTR, but every time I offer a lesson she is "busy". She always was smarter than me....
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway
  • Thread Starter
#39  
I would second the idea of seriously reducing the acreage you are mowing. Unless you are using those acres as a sports facility or something, giant lawns are a money pit. Now some of us are older folks who maybe just like to ride around and mow while we contemplate life...IIRC, you mentioned no kids yet, which implies you are young and considering a family. You can always reclaim the land down the road if you decide you really want to finish mow that many acres in the future.

I don't live near snow now, but I've spent about half of my life in it. You will be best off with some form of bladed plow and a good sized blower. You not only get snow, but it stays cold. Plows alone end up with nowhere left to push snow in a heavy year. A blower will allow you to move snow further and over the piles if needed. A loader may well be needed to move piles if you use a blade.

My advice, keep your mower, figure out how much time you want to mow and reduce the 'lawn' accordingly. Add a tractor. It can handle a blade, blower and loader...you may even like a rotary sweeper for those 'lite' snows of 1-2 inches. A truck can only use a blade.
Good points. I indeed am in my mid 30s, freshly married. The prior owner actually went this route. He was able to get a farmer down the road to come hay the areas he didn't mow for free. I'm a sucker for a nicely mowed lawn as my dad had me on the mower at age 8, stressing how perfect the lines had to be. But working 60 hr weeks and trying to maintain health and relationships, the lawn may be the sacrifice. I'm sure kids will force this on me also. Appreciate the input.
 
   / Help Choosing Machine for First Timer- Big Lawn, Long Driveway #40  
Some input from another upstate NY/north central PA resident. Our 6 acre property is wooded and hilly with multiple grade changes at approx. 1100 ft ASL elevation. Driveway is ~700 ft gravel with 3 turns and continuous uphill grade on southern and western orientation.
First two winters plowed with 20 HP Craftsman garden tractor 5' dozer blade. I also had work commitments to be out the door by 5:00-5:15 am plus 2 children in school and realized the need to upgrade. Kubota B2620 with 6 ft power angle front blade, 4wd and loaded tires cut plowing time in half. Two full passes cleared driveway then cleaned upper section near garage 50 x 150 ft later.
Mowing approx 3 acres with 42" tractor is easier/quicker due to narrow openings and many trees. Kubota mid mount belly mower 54" is ok /fast but limits access to trails and lanes plus tears up wet areas due to R4 tires and frequent turns.
I do not agree with the plowing times in a couple other comments. Heavy wet snow in 8-10" events can take 3-4 hours to clean completely. I also use the FEL to move piles as needed during cold periods.
 

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