Help me stop trespassers/poachers: Onramental grass seed sources

[Bfitzgerald3]

I'd like to plant a seasonal hedge, about 1500' long. A tall ornamental grass seems like a quick and dirty option....pus i really like the look of some of the species. Anything 5 feet+ tall will suit the bill. I need cold hardy varietals (zone 4-5). I've hunted in vain for a reliable source of seed...the only sources I've fond are generally given very poor reviews for germination. While I do have some preferred varietals, I'm leaving them off...this may be a more interesting thread to all this way.

Please help...I have to stop the deer shiners/poachers from being tempted to come onto my property!

Thanks!

 

[thatguy]

Barberry bushes may be an option..

 

[Clint S]

How about Egyptian wheat. Grows 6 to 10 feet high. Will get some growing the next year from seed drop, but usually has to be replanted every year though

 

[hawkeye08]

How tall does poison ivy grow?

 

[Bfitzgerald3]

I was into egyptian wheat until you said reseeding...i have too many projects all the time. Poison ivy...ha! Unfortunatel, when there's antlers visible from the road, bullets and boots will walk right through it.

 

[Bfitzgerald3]

I tried planting 500 pines this year...a month of drought killed the vast majority....i fear bushes would suffer the same fate.

 

[dave1949]

No idea about grasses. Stinging nettles are no fun, never seem to die out on their own, and they get 3-4 feet tall if healthy. They do better in damp ground though.

Amur Privet, Russian or Autumn Olive are pretty tough shrub trees.

A good multi-flora rose hedge cannot be seen or walked through summer or winter, but it's banned in some or maybe most places.

 

[Murfster3]

Ok here is some info on grasses, this is called reven???? Or pampas grass I planted this in may of 2011 as plugs
In the picture it's about 4-5' tall in July now over 6'+. It grows up to 14' tall. I plant 3' apart in staggering rows
Next year the deer should not see me when I drive in. If you don't live in michigan call bob Soos company in
Middleville michigan. They are a whole sale greenhouse and can sale to residents outside of michigan cause she doesn't charge sales tax. The plugs cost 40-50 cents each. I was paying $1.45 each

 

[creekbend]

Perhaps bushes that have BIG Thorns? Just a thought.

 

[sfloggie]

We planted seventy-six dwarf hollies in 2010 along 200'. They are now 4' tall and about 2-3' wide, so I could have set them further apart. They are thorny so people and animals do not go through them. Deer do not like their taste. The red berries are great for the birds. So I suggest these.

We pay $25 a year to the state for a nursery license. You can buy direct and in bulk from wholesale nurserys.
Dwarf Burford Holly Shrub, CHOATE USA

 

[dmccarty]

How about clumping bamboo? It does not spread like running bamboo and grows tall and thick.

I planted pines years ago and most of them died. I think the deer ate them. The NC Agriculture TV show just mentioned clumping bamboo and I will have to research that a bit more.

Do NOT plant that #$%^&*() %^&*() Russian Olive plant from hades. That stuff is invasive as the Bamboo Stilt grass that is taking over my woods. The Russian Olive is all over the place and is impossible to remove.

Later,
Dan

 

[brin]

How about clumping bamboo? It does not spread like running bamboo and grows tall and thick.

I planted pines years ago and most of them died. I think the deer ate them. The NC Agriculture TV show just mentioned clumping bamboo and I will have to research that a bit more.

Do NOT plant that #$%^&*() %^&*() Russian Olive plant from hades. That stuff is invasive as the Bamboo Stilt grass that is taking over my woods. The Russian Olive is all over the place and is impossible to remove.

Later,
Dan

Privet is the same way ....very invasive...worse than Kudzu....it is taking over in parts of GA....be careful with Privet.

 

[polo1665]

Blackberry, Raspberry, or Multifloral Rose bushes are all good for this.

 

[tractorshopper]

I have privet down a fence row on one complete end of my property and can't keep the crap in check. I'm losing property by the day. I keep whacking away at it, but it comes back faster than I can do anything about it.

 

[1bush2hog]

I have privet down a fence row on one complete end of my property and can't keep the crap in check. I'm losing property by the day. I keep whacking away at it, but it comes back faster than I can do anything about it.

Remedy and Aquamaster (53.8% Glyphosate) works! Foliar spray (need to add surfactant) on the smaller stuff, and cut stem/stump treatment on the larger clumps.

After battling many of the previously mentioned invasives for years, check out privet, multiflora rose, russian and autumn olive, and even some of the grasses mentioned before you plant. My vote would be to plant the pines again. They are inexpensive if purchased from the state forestry div., and if you plant two parallel rows that are staggered, you will have a pretty nice "hedge" in a few years.

 

[czechsonofagun]

Bamboo if yoi have the space for it, kinda grass too

 

[dmccarty]

Remedy and Aquamaster (53.8% Glyphosate) works! Foliar spray (need to add surfactant) on the smaller stuff, and cut stem/stump treatment on the larger clumps.

After battling many of the previously mentioned invasives for years, check out privet, multiflora rose, russian and autumn olive, and even some of the grasses mentioned before you plant. My vote would be to plant the pines again. They are inexpensive if purchased from the state forestry div., and if you plant two parallel rows that are staggered, you will have a pretty nice "hedge" in a few years.

I bought 500 pine seedlings from the state and they were pretty cheap. I think I spent more on the dibbles than I did no the seedlings. I planted the seedlings 30-50 feet from the property line spaced about six feet apart in 4-8 lines. Figured that would be very dense for 20 or so years until the trees got tall and I could plant something else for a visible barrier.

Great plan and it did not take too long to plant the seedlings. Then the seedlings died or were eaten.

I need to try again this spring...

Later,
Dan

 

[Dr_Zinj]

How tall does poison ivy grow?

You need a trellis or better yet, grape vine post and wires for poison ivy.

I'm kind of partial to planting hawthorne bushes/trees close together.

 

[dave1949]

Autumn olive jelly:
Autumnberry, Autumn-olive « Forager's Harvest

A farming neighbor in Ohio had multiflora rose hedges. They were very nice, great wildlife cover too. The hedges separated tilled fields and didn't spread. It depends on how the surrounding ground is used I think. They do have a reputation for getting into pastures.

Eastern white pine can be topped after it has some growth. It will form a hedge of sorts if planted in staggered rows.

Highbush cranberry is a good plant. It has little purple fruits the birds will eat.

Highbush blueberries do well in the OP's general area.

Red osier (red twig dogwood) is wildlife friendly plant, deer browse it.

 

[forgeblast]

Nourse farms noursefarms.com/ sells blackberries, strong plants huge thorns. You could put in a simple trellis.
I would avoid invasives they like to spread. You could go with hazelnut (aobut 15' tall) and then blueberries on your side. A good place to buy a large amount in laywer nursery. www.lawyernursery.com/‎