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I agree. How dare someone want neighbors to be considerate.
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Buggs67
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19 pages of talk about crap.
CobyRupert
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It was a public road, but now it’s a private road. So, who owns the road? Did deeds change?
Is this a case where the municipality abandoned the road and its maintenance, but it’s still a public right of way?
I bet if something happened on the road due to negligence, all of a sudden people would be “No, it’s not my road, we don’t own it.”
There’s a lot of old roads around here that are that way. Owner can put up a gate, but can’t lock it. Although nobody really pays attention to the laws
Is this a case where the municipality abandoned the road and its maintenance, but it’s still a public right of way?
I bet if something happened on the road due to negligence, all of a sudden people would be “No, it’s not my road, we don’t own it.”
There’s a lot of old roads around here that are that way. Owner can put up a gate, but can’t lock it. Although nobody really pays attention to the laws
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Molalla1
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I had horses while raising my kids (the girl's horses, boys did not care) and had/have cattle now and then . . . they would leave crap on "my" road too, only it was my girls and or their cousins/friends fault . . . I would just drive over it.
on edit . . . I hate horses always have . . .
on edit . . . I hate horses always have . . .
2LaneCruzer
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Hah. I learned one thing early on about horses; if you aren't the boss, then they are. Somehow I was never able to be the boss, so I gave up on them. They are pretty to look at for the most part, and some people dote on them (Sharn Jean is one of those), but they are not for me. Same with motorcycles. Never could master one.
When we first moved into our present community, the local newspaper used to regularly reprint editions from 100 years ago. They were quite entertaining; lots of gossip and personal stories, but one thing I remember, is that there were lots of stories about folks in the community being killed or seriously injured by horses.
When we first moved into our present community, the local newspaper used to regularly reprint editions from 100 years ago. They were quite entertaining; lots of gossip and personal stories, but one thing I remember, is that there were lots of stories about folks in the community being killed or seriously injured by horses.
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It seems like much doo-doo about nothing. In a neighborhood of $100,000 vehicles and a majority of the homeowners upset about road apples it would be easy to put up an remotely controlled automatic gate system that should end all whining. The other solution, talk to the offending neighbor.
It seems the op is a bit of a drama king. Complaints about horse crap on the road getting in the wheel wells, then complaints about horse crap getting into his house. (does he drive his car in the living room?) The hyperbole might be somewhat valid if he is driving through a stable yard, or the 7th Cavalry is riding up his road on a daily basis, or the horses all drop strangely moist and liquid apples, but it seems its a few horses a few times a week at most. I get it, the road apples are unsightly. I am wondering why a gate hasn't already been installed to keep undesirables out. Perhaps another poster is correct, they can't limit access to public equestrian trails.
It seems the op is a bit of a drama king. Complaints about horse crap on the road getting in the wheel wells, then complaints about horse crap getting into his house. (does he drive his car in the living room?) The hyperbole might be somewhat valid if he is driving through a stable yard, or the 7th Cavalry is riding up his road on a daily basis, or the horses all drop strangely moist and liquid apples, but it seems its a few horses a few times a week at most. I get it, the road apples are unsightly. I am wondering why a gate hasn't already been installed to keep undesirables out. Perhaps another poster is correct, they can't limit access to public equestrian trails.
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ponytug
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As New England has lots of interesting history, and many laws that go back a long time, I would observe that what might be permitted in a reportedly jointly owned, formerly public roadway applied to animals that were the rule of the roadway for a couple of centuries has the possibility of being complicated. I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV...
Molalla1
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Yes, there are many laws on the books still out this way about horses/animals that predate any car/truck.
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The funny thing about horses when you're on a trail ride, when you stop and one pee's, they all pee. It's like power of suggestion or something.
I have a hard time expecting somebody else to clean up after me, so can understand the OP's gripe. I clean up after my dog if it's on the road or in a public place. Tonight I was in the gas station and noticed that my taillights and tailgate were covered with about an inch of snow. Rather than cleaning them off into the parking lot I scraped the snow into my shovel and dumped it into the truck for disposal later. I've had a store owner thank me after watching me do the same thing... I didn't realize he was watching.
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I've got piles of chicken litter in the field across from my place. It smells too. There's even some on the road. Should I call the farmer and tell him he can't fertilize his fields? Negative, it's farm country. Move back to town.
2LaneCruzer
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How do you become a millionaire raising horses? Start out as a billionaire!
It's not the horse owner's field he's fertilizing though. According to the OP it's a private road which the riding stable may or may not have the right to be using. Even on publicly owned roads, horse owners are often expected to clean up after their animals.
2LaneCruzer
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Just think, if it weren't for Henry Ford...
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Yes it was a public road, yes it is now a private road, yes the deed changed, No the town did not abandon it. The land owner where the road is, built another road for the town decades ago so this road could be private. No it's not a public right of way.. it's a private road period.
One of the other neighthat is an owner and myself maintain it... the other 3-4 neighbors wave as they drive by without picking up a finger.
The horse riders art 100% trespassing . A gate would not work due to the length of the road and frequent ups, amazon deliveries etc. not to mention getting power to any gate would be nearly impossible.
Oaktree
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Now why would someone want to do that when it's so much easier to rant on the internet?
Is the land posted? In many jurisdictions it's not considered trespassing unless there's signage. If the only "harm" they're doing is dropping manure it's not likely to be a law enforcement priority.
Rockbadchild
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my suggestion which I hate to share it due to the circumstance is, make the issue about liability not horse apple.
