How big a trailer do I need?

[Dargo]

Two 20K axles??? A 40K GVWR min with 19.5 or 22.5 tires??....nice who is the manufacture, I have not seen anything over 12k axles on a GN trailer.

Oops! As you likely figured, they are 10k axles with a 20k gross rating before deducting the weight of the trailer.

 

[wushaw]

Oops! As you likely figured, they are 10k axles with a 20k gross rating before deducting the weight of the trailer.

I kinda figured that but you never know what some trailer builder is gonna do

 

[Dargo]

I kinda figured that but you never know what some trailer builder is gonna do

I'm not an expert on trailer building by any means, but the manufacturer seemed to think that the Dexter oil bath 10k axles are top notch. I honestly wouldn't know if they are or if they are not. So far, so good though.

 

[don716]

Well, I have a B7500 with a FEL, 60"MMM, and a bushhog and I have a 16' Dual axle trailer with trailor brakes. I pull it with my 03 Tocoma and it pulls it great.I hardly know it's back there. You will need trailor brakes though.I had electric brakes installed on my Tocoma right after I bought it. My trailor has 2-3500lb axles.
Donny

 

[wushaw]

I'm not an expert on trailer building by any means, but the manufacturer seemed to think that the Dexter oil bath 10k axles are top notch. I honestly wouldn't know if they are or if they are not. So far, so good though.

He is correct and less wheel bearing packing for you...just a visual to see the level of oil and good to go.

 

[Jay4200]

I have a B7610 on the way, and I'm wondering if a 3500lb gvw trailer would be enough to haul it, and will I need trailer brakes?

Wow - I didn't realize the B-series tractors are so light. Do you have an FEL or other implements? My L4200, with FEL and backhoe attached, weighs close to 6000 pounds, and I do not have loaded tires. Also, my 10k GVW trailer weighs ~2000 pounds empty, so I'm towing 8000 pounds total.

To answer your questions: Make sure you take into account implement weight, fluids, etc. and don't forget about the trailer's weight. If it's just a tractor w/o anything else, the 3500# trailer will likely be fine, even with loaded tires. The need for trailer brakes for 3500# is marginal, although you'll definately know it's back there without them, and with a vehicle that is rated at only 3500#, you'll likely need them. With brakes, it'll tow like it's not there.

If your tow vehicle is rated for 3500#, then the discussion is moot - that's all you can do. If you need more capability, you may be able to increase your tow rating with a weight-distributing hitch.

Jay

 

[rdsaustintx]

Trailers are like tractors, hard to get one too big.

As usual, you're getting good advice here. I agree with what I am reading.

I can't imagine hauling on a single axle. Attached photo shows my trailer. Tandem axles with electric brakes on both. Deck is 18' x 7' and it will hardly fit my BX with implements, although I have carried Suburbans and pickups on it with no problems. Truck tow rating is 8000# with frame hitch.

Hauling any tractor on a single axle sounds sketchy, and hauling w/o brakes sounds positively suicidal. Any moisture on the road and you'll jackknife EASY.

Oil bath axles would be very cool. Barring that, just pack the hubs yourself, as most trailer "mechanics" tend to be real slobs, at least around here.

Russell in Texas

 

[RobertN]

I have a B7610 on the way, and I'm wondering if a 3500lb gvw trailer would be enough to haul it, and will I need trailer brakes? Forgive the ignorance since I have no experience trailering anything that large.
Chuck

You tractor looks similar in size to my B8200, the B2150, B2710. I have a 16' trailer, 7000lbgvrw. The tractor uses the length of the trailer. When I have my 48" rotary mower and loader on the tractor, it uses every inch of the trailer; in fact the tail wheel hangs off a little... With the loader and a scraper loaded, I have a little over a foot front and rear to play with.

Weight wise, I fugured mine some time ago around 2300 lbs. If you factor a 3500lb rated trailer weighs about 8-900lbs, then you are getting close to the GVWR.

In my case, the trailer weighs 1600lbs. So, I run about 4000lbs total with the tractor loaded.

Many have mentioned brakes. I had the brakes fail on a borrowed trailer, and had to make an emergency stop. Same basic load as what my trailer is. It amazed how it pushed my 3/4 ton 4x4 diesel Dodge around... Make sure you get brakes!

when you look at the trailer, think too about what else you'll haul. I got the trailer forthe tractor. Turns out it is VERY handy. Turns out, I have hauled:
my Kubota
my Farmall
Subaru Outback
Blazer
Bronco
Jeep
10', 12', 16', and 20' lumber
10' and 20' pipe sections
swing set
sod
concrete block retaining wall
fire wood
Dad's tractor
Buddies tractor
Buddies Bobcat
ASV RC30 track loader
roller/compacter
disk
hay
junk
Cub Scout parade floats
Veteran's Day parade float
Other various "Stuff"

So when you lok at a trailer, think about everything it might haul...

I would recomend a 16' 7000lb as a minimum.

BEFORE you do that though, look at the specs on your tow rig... Sounds like that may be a limiting factor...

 

[nh_bota]

I haul my BX2350 with a CarMate 3500# trailer, but that's only to get it to the shop or friend/family's house etc. The trailer weight is 825 lbs, so I'm well within the weight limits. I would not use it to haul long distances, nor do I haul the loader with it -- unless necessary. For that, I rent a 6x12 Uhaul unit which works well. It's just not practical for me to own anything bigger. My tow vehicle is an '03 Suburban, which is perfect.

 

[project]

Chuck, I have a similar issue with hauling. I already owned a 12' , single axle flat bed before I purchased my 7510. Just the tractor is about 1300 lbs, with loader about 1900lbs. I need to get mine in for a service shortly. If I compare it to my boat trailer, my flat bed should handle it. My boat is a 19' er weighting about 2100 on a single axle galvanized trailer.(estimate 500lbs) My tow vehicle is a 02 Ford, 350 Diesel. Unless I'm climbing a grade, I don't notice much effort either towing or stopping. I could lighten the tractor load by taking off the bucket and leaving the loader on. I'm still not entirely sure it is safe to do so and won't until I'm positive. Will probably experiment staying close to home. Let us know if it works with the 3500 # axle.