How to kill yourself without knowing

[LostInTheWoods]

Think I will just sell my stuff and hire it done or buy a nerf tractor.

TripleR...you might be interested in this model...

 

[TripleR]

TripleR...you might be interested in this model...

If they make it in a cab model with a drool cup, I'm there.:thumbsup:

 

[nebraskasparks]

I'm with TripleR

 

[nebraskasparks]

Check out Earplug's reference to human reaction time...written by a PHD

Visual Expert Human Factors: Driver Reaction Time

He states 1.5 seconds used as an average for a Simple Reaction Time. Throw in a few different variables and I'll bet we can get to 5 seconds without too much trouble.

National Ag Safety Data Base says that you can flip backward and complete the disastrous maneuver in 1.5 seconds. .... 3/4 of a second is the point of no return on most tractors. That's on level, dry ground....no FEL.

Safe to say that most of us that aren't young any more and that without a rops AND a seat belt...we would be a mort. (That's if my Ag math of subtracting 1.5 from 1.5 equals 0)

Think I'll go back to using my hand tools in the garden:laughing:

 

[brin]

I'm going with the safety first motto ...there is no reason at all to take any chance..whatever it is I am doing can just get done by someone else on my dime if I think the skill level required is above my pay grade or the machines and equipment I have...

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Sometimes Bob, you can't get someone else to do it and that's where I find it nice to be a little older. I can justify slowing down enuff to figure out a easier, safer, generally slower way to do it and it's ok cause I am an old fart now or at least that's what my kids tell me. I am putting up a 26x50x16 steel arch truss building solo and at first I was making a whole arch picking it up half way with the tractor and then hauling it up with a bridle the rest of the way. Did the first 2 that way and was lucky I didn't crumple one or worse. Decided since I am an old fart I would just put one piece at a time except for the bottom 2 and it is way safer:thumbsup:and way slower:confused3:Oh well

 

[Soundguy]

problem with all that is that it's an 'average' range. that means theres a grouping of quite slow 10 second response people in there.. and some quite fast .5 second people in there.

1.5seconds probably isn't enough time for the 'slow' person to even realize there is an upset occuring untill the emt shows up.. on the other hand.. the guy that has good .5 second reaction time may not know exactly what is occuring.. but knows SOMETHING is occuring.. and if he's got a good action/reaction plan.. IE.. STOMP the clutch on all faults type programming.. then he might just be ok.

soundguy

Check out Earplug's reference to human reaction time...written by a PHD

Visual Expert Human Factors: Driver Reaction Time

He states 1.5 seconds used as an average for a Simple Reaction Time. Throw in a few different variables and I'll bet we can get to 5 seconds without too much trouble.

National Ag Safety Data Base says that you can flip backward and complete the disastrous maneuver in 1.5 seconds. .... 3/4 of a second is the point of no return on most tractors. That's on level, dry ground....no FEL.

Safe to say that most of us that aren't young any more and that without a rops AND a seat belt...we would be a mort. (That's if my Ag math of subtracting 1.5 from 1.5 equals 0)

Think I'll go back to using my hand tools in the garden:laughing:

 

[rd_macgregor]

Technically, I think that first moment of realization when things go disastrously wrong is called an "OhNosecond".

It amazes me that some folks will fret over trivial risks (like pesticides in food or cell phone radiation) then hop on a tractor and head into the woods or across the hillside with no seat belt and ROPS folded down.

BOB

 

[jonyyuma]

Gentlemen, I love reading this site. I might be from the South, but show no shame to Bubba, or Yankees whom write. For I too have walked in the shadow of Death, and do fear Evil. Point being, had that ole 8N raise up in a nano-second, reaction time is blurry.Still reading to not-become a posting in the obit column. Enjoy today, how many more do you have coming? Jy.

 

[nebraskasparks]

Summing up the thread to date.

We have data that says we can flip a tractor to a point of no return in 3/4 of a second on dry level ground doing things we shouldn't be doing. We'll be on our back in another 3/4 of a second which means the total maneuver takes 1.5 seconds and can be "much quicker" provided the surface conditions are not dry, the ground is not level etc.

We've documented that it can take up to 5 seconds to react to a startling situation that we have not anticipated.

Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein's theories apply to tractors and aircraft in many of the same ways.

Documentation is as follows:

CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STUDY OF THE DYNAMICS OF AGRICULTURAL
TRACTORS EQUIPPED WITH FRONT-END LOADER AND REAR FORKLIFT LOADER
Simion Popescu, Nastase Sutru
Transilvania University of Brasov/Romania, Faculty of Alimentation and Tourism
simipop38@yahoo.com, sutru_nastase@yahoo.com

www.harristechnical.com/articles/human.pdf

Driver Reaction Time by Dr. Marc Green

Personal experience with F-4 accident from 250 feet

Jerry Miculek - S&W Demo - Parte 1 - Bing Videos

National Ag Safety Database - Tractor Overturn Hazards

Visual Expert Human Factors: Driver Reaction Time