SWB
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Don't you mean H5N1?
HST vs GST?
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SkyPup
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slowzuki
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On hills I much prefer HST, powershift (GST) type trannys can coast or be jerky during gear and direction changes on steep hills. I don't like the idea of lunging a foot or too with the disconnect feeling. Also, stopping on a hill with GST requires you to brake and hold while either in neutral or clutch depressed.
The engine rpm thing is one thing that bothered me a first too, but a diesel is speed governed. If there is no load it uses very little fuel despite rpm. This is why you get different hours per tank depending on your task in a hydro even if you leave it reved.
So, ground engaging implements, get GST, loader work, precise movements, stopping on hills etc, get HST.
I got HST after being a gear person and love it, would certainly like a GST as well for my non-loader work, not that it is bad but just a notch below the HST for loader work.
The engine rpm thing is one thing that bothered me a first too, but a diesel is speed governed. If there is no load it uses very little fuel despite rpm. This is why you get different hours per tank depending on your task in a hydro even if you leave it reved.
So, ground engaging implements, get GST, loader work, precise movements, stopping on hills etc, get HST.
I got HST after being a gear person and love it, would certainly like a GST as well for my non-loader work, not that it is bad but just a notch below the HST for loader work.
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<font color="blue">I know of many people who love the GST, and the similar "PowerReverser" on the Deeres. </font>
Actually, the GST is quite different then the Deere Power Reverser or shuttle shift as most tractor manufactuers call it. With GST you have shift on the go via electrical solenoids. The solenoids have taken some of the delay out of the shifting although there is still some. Its a good tranmission and works well. The DT transmission from Kubota is similar too that of the Deere Power Reverser.
Actually, the GST is quite different then the Deere Power Reverser or shuttle shift as most tractor manufactuers call it. With GST you have shift on the go via electrical solenoids. The solenoids have taken some of the delay out of the shifting although there is still some. Its a good tranmission and works well. The DT transmission from Kubota is similar too that of the Deere Power Reverser.
Volfandt
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Since I've gone HST I'll not go back /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It must be due to the fact that my right foot is already very accustomed to varying the speed of a self propelled machine. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Good luck and enjoy testing 'em out.
Volfandt
It must be due to the fact that my right foot is already very accustomed to varying the speed of a self propelled machine. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Good luck and enjoy testing 'em out.
Volfandt
txdon
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I thought my main use for the tractor would be mowing but it turns out it is brush clearing and trail/road making. For this job HST is best. This is how the dance goes: one hand on the steering wheel spinner, one hand on the joystick, and one foot on the HST pedal and off we go. I am constantly turning, moving the bucket and going backward and forward. It works really well. If I had to use another hand to shift direction it would break my rhythm. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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RayH
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I went from a L3130 with GST to a BX23 with HST. I prefer the GST and if that tranny was available in the BX, that wouldve been my choice. the reasons I prefer it were stated by SkyPup. No ranges to worry with, no stopping or clutching, just 1 through 12 and a foot throttle which, to me makes loader work easier than with the HST because I can change the speed of the loader with engine RPMs easier than feathering the valve.
CT_Tree_Guy
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Don, I know that dance very well, isn't it great? Right hand for my front grapple joystick or rear grapple joystick, left hand for steering, right foot to go.
I don't know why I haven't gotten a wheel spinner yet - the PS is so easy that I can "palm" the wheel pretty darn well, but the spinner would probably be safer and even easier. I think I'll get one - I might even tackle the installation myself. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I don't know why I haven't gotten a wheel spinner yet - the PS is so easy that I can "palm" the wheel pretty darn well, but the spinner would probably be safer and even easier. I think I'll get one - I might even tackle the installation myself. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
txdon
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CT, the spinner makes it a lot easier when your body is half turned around while looking backward, going in reverse over rough land and turning. Your hand won't slip while holding the spinner. Mine mounts like this spinner. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Rk246 Just another $10 for a spinner. We love spending your money! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Rk246 Just another $10 for a spinner. We love spending your money! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
CT_Tree_Guy
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Don -
I just checked them out - what, they don't come in orange!!?? Oh well, red is close enough - anything but blue or green! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I bet you're right that it will make things easier for me - duh, after 560 hours. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Speaking of figuring things out too late, your comment about spending other people's money made me realize that I missed my true calling in life. I should have been a "buyer" - talk about loving your job! "Yeah, I'll take a gross of those, and all you've got of them, and 10,000 of those things ...." /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I just checked them out - what, they don't come in orange!!?? Oh well, red is close enough - anything but blue or green! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I bet you're right that it will make things easier for me - duh, after 560 hours. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Speaking of figuring things out too late, your comment about spending other people's money made me realize that I missed my true calling in life. I should have been a "buyer" - talk about loving your job! "Yeah, I'll take a gross of those, and all you've got of them, and 10,000 of those things ...." /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
