Hydraulic fluid safety?

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OutbackL130

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I stumbled across a warning about the harmful effects of skin contact with hydraulic fluid and breathing the fumes. This was the first time I ever heard it might be toxic. I have some hydraulic powered equipment and I come into contact with the fluid everyday when I hook the quick couplers up to various machinery. The couplers always leak onto my hands as they are being connected and disconnected.

I also come into contact when changing the hyrdaulic fluid on my tractor.

Are there really health hazards associated with hydraulic fluid?
 
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http://www.snopud.com/Site/Content/Documents/renewables/geomsds/hydraulicoil_awiso32_msds.pdf

google hydraulic fluid msds for others... Steve

Now, if you're dumb enough to try and stop a pinhole leak with your thumb (had a boss one time that was "book smart" but clueless - he tried that on a kubota loader - bucket was up, engine OFF, he saw the leak and tried to use his thumb... a year later he was still having operations.

Even just the weight of the loader is more than your skin will stop...
 
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Wow, BukitCase! I had no idea regarding the medical effects of 'injected' hydraulic fluid. Ya learn something every day, eh?

Mind you, I wouldn't have tried plugging a high pressure leak with my hand or finger in the first place... But that's due to safety training regarding High Pressure air.

I also, habitually, wear leather lineman gloves around the property for everything except ropework.

Thanks for the post OutbackL130.
 
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injected oil is bad. plain hyd oil just getting on your skin? not bad unless you are especially sensitive to it. I've had lines blow and been bathed it it.. many times. been under tractors when an 'empty sump' doused me as i pulled a pto shaft ort axle trumpet off. been arms and elbos deep into all the fluids that go into machines that furn money into smoke... including diesel tanks... can't see much if any damage. i imagine painting exposure probably has done more.. etc..

be safe around hot or pressurized oil.
 
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Here is an example of hyd fluid injection.

Most of the damage is caused by the removal of contaminated flesh.

You can see the hole where it went in.
 

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Which says:
Skin: Contact with the skin is not expected to cause prolonged or significant irritation. Not
expected to be harmful to internal organs if absorbed through the skin. High-Pressure Equipment
Information: Accidental high-velocity injection under the skin of materials of this type may result in
serious injury. Seek medical attention at once should an accident like this occur. The initial wound
at the injection site may not appear to be serious at first; but, if left untreated, could result in
disfigurement or amputation of the affected part.
 
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Yup, I picked that particular one from the google search because of the injection warning - and remember, just because the engine is turned OFF does NOT mean your baby can't HURT you - there are SEVERAL kinds of "stored energy", including the one my boss found out about ( I call that one the "loader becomes hydraulic pump" one)

I've also had a few "oil baths", it ain't fun, but usually a few hot showers and the wife'll letcha back in the house :=) ...Steve
 
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Thanks for the replies. I had seen the msds mention that hydraulic fluid was not harmful if simply absorbed through skin contact. This link I came across would lead you to believe differently and is what brought me to ask about it. I do trust the msds though. Plus I'm sure people have been getting hydraulic fluid on their skin since tractors were first invented. Still, the effects talked about in the link are quite severe, but I dont see how regular hydraulic fluid would cause those things to happen?


ATSDR - Public Health Statement: Hydraulic Fluids


...A man whose hands and forearms were heavily exposed to mineral oil hydraulic fluids in his job developed weakness in his hands. This effect was probably caused by one of the organophosphate ester additives of the mineral oil hydraulic fluid. The skin and eyes of animals were red and swollen after contact with certain mineral oil hydraulic fluids and polyalphaolefin hydraulic fluids. Animals breathing very high levels of polyalphaolefin hydraulic fluids became drowsy and had congested lungs and trouble breathing. We do not know if mineral oil hydraulic fluids or polyalphaolefin hydraulic fluids will cause birth defects, reproductive effects, or cancer.

...Studies in animals suggest that if you breathe or swallow large amounts of certain organophosphate ester hydraulic fluids, you may have nervous system problems. Certain organophosphate ester hydraulic fluids affect the nervous system of animals in two different ways. The first type of effect occurs within a few hours of breathing, swallowing, or skin contact. The organophosphate ester part of the hydraulic fluid rapidly inhibits the activity of important enzymes in the nervous system causing multiple symptoms including tremors, sweating, diarrhea, and difficulty breathing. The second effect involves damage to nerves. The symptoms of this type of damage are general weakness, weakness of the arms and legs, and paralysis. These symptoms of nerve damage can occur several weeks after exposure has stopped. If you have been exposed once to organophosphate ester hydraulic fluids, the symptoms of enzyme inhibition will disappear before the weakness occurs. Not all types of these fluids cause both types of nervous system damage. In animal studies, not all animals that have symptoms of enzyme inhibition have nerve damage. Both of these types of nervous system damage can occur after one or several exposures.
 
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Well, don't get it in your eyes and wash it off as soon as is possible and you should be ok, UNLESS you are one of the few people who is allergic to mineral oils.
On the quoted text, the following makes me questin them:
Studies in animals suggest that if you breathe or swallow large amounts of certain organophosphate ester hydraulic fluids, you may have nervous system problems.
If you breath of swallow ANY fluid (other than babies in amniotic fluid) you will have a problem, its called drowning.

Aaron Z
 
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Well, don't get it in your eyes and wash it off as soon as is possible and you should be ok, UNLESS you are one of the few people who is allergic to mineral oils.
On the quoted text, the following makes me questin them:
If you breath of swallow ANY fluid (other than babies in amniotic fluid) you will have a problem, its called drowning.

Aaron Z

i agree.. do not BREATHE or DRINK large amounts of hyd fluid. ;)
 
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i agree.. do not BREATHE or DRINK large amounts of hyd fluid. ;)
I don't recommend breathing or drinking small amounts of it either if at all possible :D... Just not high on my top 10 list of things that I want to do.

Aaron Z
 
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you have to wonder about the people that write those things... when did some stuff fall out of the 'obvious / head slap / DOH ' area?


:)
 
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What if I limit my intake of hydro fluid to 1 or maybe 2 cups per day? and say never any before bedtime?
 
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What if I limit my intake of hydro fluid to 1 or maybe 2 cups per day? and say never any before bedtime?

and like one of the prez's

don't inhale.
 
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Mineral based oils typically are relatively harmless as noted. Some of the fire resistant phosphate esters or polyole (spelling) esters are a different matter. Some of these eat paint, standard Buna-N seals etc.

Granted I doubt you will find these in any normal farm equipment.
 
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Mineral based oils typically are relatively harmless as noted. Some of the fire resistant phosphate esters or polyole (spelling) esters are a different matter. Some of these eat paint, standard Buna-N seals etc.

Granted I doubt you will find these in any normal farm equipment.

Have you ever heard of Skydrol? Designed and quoted a power unit for Boing aircraft and had to be compatible with that crap. I'll never do that again. CJ
 
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Have you ever heard of Skydrol? Designed and quoted a power unit for Boing aircraft and had to be compatible with that crap. I'll never do that again. CJ

You guys (presumedly) beat me to it.....standard hyraulic oil is not organophosphate based, nor are the additives. Somebody's trying to scare all of us for a specialty application. In fact, organophophates are a class of chemicals still used for many insecticides. DDT was part of that class.

Standard hydraulic oil is of no concern, except when hot or pressurized.
 
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What if I limit my intake of hydro fluid to 1 or maybe 2 cups per day? and say never any before bedtime?
You should be okay then. :)

I was underneath my home made excavator the other day fixing a broken metal line that snapped off in the hydraulic pump pressure port. I had the hydraulic pressure hose sticking up to prevent fluid loss and it moved out of position and started pouring fluid on my face and got a bit in my mouth. It didn't taste very good. lol

My dad was loading it up in Kansas to bring it to Arkansas for me and the chain he was lifting it with slipped and somehow managed to snap the 1/4" metal nipple that was attached to the pump.

I have to fix the carburetor on it otherwise he would've just crawled it up onto the trailer.

Chad
 
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Have you ever heard of Skydrol? Designed and quoted a power unit for Boing aircraft and had to be compatible with that crap. I'll never do that again. CJ

Much of the aircraft hyd oil (Skydrol, Aero HFA, Texaco hyd oil #15 ect) has some nasty chemicals mixed in....the warnings tell to wash clothes separately and wash hands totally before eating
 

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