Hydrofracing

[Catfish Man]

I have problems with your broad generalizations, show me any industry that is full of angels.

1. I never said everyone in the industry is a college graduate

2. Large trucks are large, no matter who they work for, maybe you drive to fast for the conditions?

3. Jobs are available, if your neighbors are not going after them, that's their fault.

4. As I said, if you have strangers on your property from a gas company, call them and it will stop.

5. Realtors are not angels either, don't take everything they say at face value, if there is gas in your area, you can sell your land for more than it was worth before fracking came to town.

6. Your water tester is trying to sell you SOMETHING, there is not one documented case where it is proven that fracking contaminated a well, and fracking is not new technology.

7. No comment on this one, because I have no knowledge, sounds like you have some corrupt public officials.

8. Show me an industry with no illegal aliens

9. Who tried to get you to sign a contract? My guess it was a land grabber, they operate independently of the gas companies. They come in and buy up mineral rights for pennies on the dollar, to resale to the legitimate companies at a later date. They are common criminals.


Everyone in the Northeast US is watching the drilling and fracking close, no environmental laws are being broken. Most of us love the outdoors, we do not want to hurt the environment, even if no one was watching.

I have been on rigs in other countries working for a major US oil company, the country didn't care about the environment, we could have done major damage to the environment, but we operated at the same standards that we would have on US soil.

 

[joemd11]

The wife and I are grappling with this issue now. We have received numerous queries in the mail from the drillers to lease out land. Trying to gather factual info so we can make an intelligent decision. Unfortunately, Pa was caught flat footed with this shale gas boom so they have very little in the way of regulations. Seems to be no shortage of horror stories out there and I'd like to separate the "wheat from the chaff". We depend on a well for our water and I sure don't want that compromised. To me the crux of the problem is the frac fluid. The drillers don't divulge what chemicals are used in the process. So if you find that your well has been contaminated, how do you prove it was the from the drilling? Also, how do you obtain a baseline water analysis that will stand up in court in the event your well is contaminated? I don't know if any govt agency in my area does analysis for private wells. Sorry for rambling.

 

[murphy1244]

6. Your water tester is trying to sell you SOMETHING, there is not one documented case where it is proven that fracking contaminated a well, and fracking is not new technology.
In the great state of Ohio, ODNR is made up from guys from the gas industry
Do a search for Mark Mangan 44256 to see this Made up water problem. I catch on my land they will never see you again.
JOEM your county health department might ours does, And that baseline is exsactly what I done.

 

[murphy1244]

I have problems with your broad generalizations, show me any industry that is full of angels.

1. I never said everyone in the industry is a college graduate

2. Large trucks are large, no matter who they work for, maybe you drive to fast for the conditions?

3. Jobs are available, if your neighbors are not going after them, that's their fault.

4. As I said, if you have strangers on your property from a gas company, call them and it will stop.

5. Realtors are not angels either, don't take everything they say at face value, if there is gas in your area, you can sell your land for more than it was worth before fracking came to town.

6. Your water tester is trying to sell you SOMETHING, there is not one documented case where it is proven that fracking contaminated a well, and fracking is not new technology.

7. No comment on this one, because I have no knowledge, sounds like you have some corrupt public officials.

8. Show me an industry with no illegal aliens

9. Who tried to get you to sign a contract? My guess it was a land grabber, they operate independently of the gas companies. They come in and buy up mineral rights for pennies on the dollar, to resale to the legitimate companies at a later date. They are common criminals.


Everyone in the Northeast US is watching the drilling and fracking close, no environmental laws are being broken. Most of us love the outdoors, we do not want to hurt the environment, even if no one was watching.

I have been on rigs in other countries working for a major US oil company, the country didn't care about the environment, we could have done major damage to the environment, but we operated at the same standards that we would have on US soil.

Catfish man, What do you want to know about Snow blowers? Catfish you might wanna finish your profile so we don't think this blog is the only reason your on here.

 

[Catfish Man]

The wife and I are grappling with this issue now. We have received numerous queries in the mail from the drillers to lease out land. Trying to gather factual info so we can make an intelligent decision. Unfortunately, Pa was caught flat footed with this shale gas boom so they have very little in the way of regulations. Seems to be no shortage of horror stories out there and I'd like to separate the "wheat from the chaff". We depend on a well for our water and I sure don't want that compromised. To me the crux of the problem is the frac fluid. The drillers don't divulge what chemicals are used in the process. So if you find that your well has been contaminated, how do you prove it was the from the drilling? Also, how do you obtain a baseline water analysis that will stand up in court in the event your well is contaminated? I don't know if any govt agency in my area does analysis for private wells. Sorry for rambling.

Make sure you are dealing with an actual gas company, and not a land grabber. Getting a baseline water test, can't hurt if it makes you feel better.

As I said, I have relocated my family to WV, and yes I'm drinking water from a well.

My wife is friends with a girl that lives so close to a gas well (that I worked on), you can throw a rock and hit the well from her house. The well has recently been fracked. I have no hesitation about going over there and drinking the water.

I'm not saying there will never be a contaminated water well, **** fertilizer runoff from fields contaminate wells. What I'm saying is, don't let a couple of horror stories scare you away.

 

[Bird]

well I guess I am wrong about the gas industry, everyone working for them is a college graduate and we know that that makes them superior to the masses.
My being run off the road by large trucks must have been in my dreams
My neighbors are secretly working for the drillers and not telling the rest of us
The bands of strangers snooping around private property are just lost tourists
The realtor was a fake and that is why they discourage those near drill sights about selling property
The water tester was trying to scare me about finding 10% of the water wells becoming polluted after the gas drilling.
The private property being condemned for pipe lines is because the land owners are just hard headed and want a fair price for what is theirs.
And since most all the workers are local I guess the Williamsport police were mistaken
PA: Illegal Aliens working for GPX Survey in Williamsport
I am also wrong about getting a lawyer to examine the contract they tried to get me to sign, He was lying because they are college graduates and would never ever try to cheat someone
In Conclusion I wish to apologize to offending the highly educated honest fair environmentally friendly drillers
Please forgive me

As I said before, you sure paint with a broad brush. You may have met some bad people in that business so you've decided they're all bad. Well, I guarantee I could find some bad people in your line of work, so if I use the same thought process that you do, then I'd have to conclude that you're just no good. Now, wouldn't that be a bit ridiculous on my part?

 

[Catfish Man]

Catfish man, What do you want to know about Snow blowers?

Before I come here, I knew VERY little, but I'm learning more everyday. Getting ready to pull the trigger on a B2920 bota with a front mounted blower.

As I said, I'm not trying to start trouble, I'm just trying to educate about stuff I have been around all my life and attended numerous hours of schooling on.

 

[Bird]

I'd guess there must be a lot of natural gas activity in the Williamsport area. That's where my grandson has been on a temporary assignment the last couple of weeks, but he works for a different company than the one the police raided for illegal immigrants.

 

[joemd11]

This is one of those hot button topics where passion on both sides can run high. I'm just going to get as much FACTUAL information as I can before I make a decision - hopefully the correct decision. This is a timely and important thread which I intend to follow closely.

 

[murphy1244]

This is one of those hot button topics where passion on both sides can run high. I'm just going to get as much FACTUAL information as I can before I make a decision - hopefully the correct decision. This is a timely and important thread which I intend to follow closely.

Get your water tested, The county might do it. Cisterns cost Mark 15000.0 and he didn't even profit from a well.