Hydrofracing

[Danno1]

This is a TRACTOR forum, right?

Actually, it's related topics.


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[jonyyuma]

Related, To knowing a few rights, just in case this sprouts in your back yard...

 

[Tollster]

A link I found with some information on the process and issues. I did not read it all,but it appears to be very informative, particularly the link at the bottom of the page.

Fracking | Water Defense

 

[Jstpssng]

A link I found with some information on the process and issues. I did not read it all,but it appears to be very informative, particularly the link at the bottom of the page.

Fracking | Water Defense

I read most of this... granted they have an agenda, but I still will stop b***hing about the windmills which are popping up like mushrooms around here.

I had never heard of "fracking" until last fall when working in NY and PA. Now I see what the hoopla was about.

 

[frelvis99]

Actually, it's related topics.


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tractorfracing ...unless im on it ,,then its crackfracing

 

[Jstpssng]

A link I found with some information on the process and issues. I did not read it all,but it appears to be very informative, particularly the link at the bottom of the page.

Fracking | Water Defense

I read most of this... granted they have an agenda, but I still will stop b***hing about the windmills which are popping up like mushrooms around here.

I had never heard of "fracking" until last fall when working in NY and PA. Now I see what the hoopla was about.

 

[tommu56]

Pro-fracking movie to counter the GASLAND anti movie


Pro-fracking movie gets $22K on Kickstarter - latimes.com

 

[Egon]

I had never heard of "fracking" until last fall when working in NY and PA. Now I see what the hoopla was about.

Well maybe sorta but not really.

 

[Jstpssng]

Well maybe sorta but not really.

I wasn't being pro or con; I don't know much about it but can see how it could be controversial.
I did read recently though that there seems to be a correlation between this and some earth trmors.

 

[jonyyuma]

Controversial???The Correlation between drilling and the earth tremors, have reached across the river. Being in an Earthquake zone, because of the New Madrid fault...My Insurance carrier did not waste time in informing me my new coverage will be at 20% deductables? Ask me how that Tastes???Fracking may or may not be responsible, but I read since they stopped , in that area, the tremors have eased a lot?? SO? Now my area has not shook in a long time? Last time recorded I was driving and naturally did not feel a thing shaking....

 

[Jstpssng]

Controversial???The Correlation between drilling and the earth tremors, have reached across the river. Being in an Earthquake zone, because of the New Madrid fault...My Insurance carrier did not waste time in informing me my new coverage will be at 20% deductables? Ask me how that Tastes???Fracking may or may not be responsible, but I read since they stopped , in that area, the tremors have eased a lot?? SO? Now my area has not shook in a long time? Last time recorded I was driving and naturally did not feel a thing shaking....

I knew I should have put a qualifier in stating that I don't live close enough to have any say on the subject... and I will stop complaining about the windmills.

 

[jonyyuma]

I'm doing my best to stop too... We have noticed hundreds of gens and those long blade come thru our area on semis. you would think thery could ship them cheaper by railroad?Then i saw the video of one windmill burning to a crisp...So now I see a coal-burner stack going up across the Miss. river??? Something else, probably for Elect. power?

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm doing my best to stop too... We have noticed hundreds of gens and those long blade come thru our area on semis. you would think thery could ship them cheaper by railroad?Then i saw the video of one windmill burning to a crisp...So now I see a coal-burner stack going up across the Miss. river??? Something else, probably for Elect. power?

I'm not completely pro or con windmill; I just feel they are going up to fast and in a few years current technology will be obsolete. Even my vet, who has been written about in the newspaper & is very green with 2 hybrid cars and his own windmill in his back yard, mentioned he thinks we're going too fast. I also question how green they really are, given the deforestation involved with running new ransmission linea out of state... to me if Conneticutt wants windmill power they should find their own hilltop sites.
On the other hand even if all the windmills in the state collapsed at once it wouldn't register on the Richter scale... and I do believe we need to make some changes. (Plus the smoke from those coal burners eventually end up here... much of our air pollution is imported.)

 

[jonyyuma]

Sorry that you have to endure the coal smoke of others. We have had a coal-gen station here for ages. Even with latest precipatators on the exhaust, it can cast a line in the sky for miles??You can see it when you approach from Ark. clearly blanketing areas of Mississippi. Todays operation it is only for Peaks and or emergencys, they now can fire up gas turbines and get to speed quicker,but just causes the Nat. gas rate to climb..they boost the price per cubic foot in the winter, Naturally..

 

[Jstpssng]

Sorry that you have to endure the coal smoke of others. We have had a coal-gen station here for ages. Even with latest precipatators on the exhaust, it can cast a line in the sky for miles??You can see it when you approach from Ark. clearly blanketing areas of Mississippi. Todays operation it is only for Peaks and or emergencys, they now can fire up gas turbines and get to speed quicker,but just causes the Nat. gas rate to climb..they boost the price per cubic foot in the winter, Naturally..

Around here the main point source is our paper and pulp mills... but when they shut down the economy suffers. (And we depend on that market to sell our wood.)

I thought about inventing a perpetual motion machine for power generation; but then I'd need to find something else to complain about!

 

[buckeyefarmer]

- definition - The breaking of rocks under high water pressure.

 

[Short Game]

maura: Industry Colludes with Pennsylvania Legislature

 

[kensnelling]

It's too bad that the author chose to go after the "collusion" angle. Almost all legislation pertaining to any industry has input to either the federal or a state's legislature or other governing boards. Think about taxes defered or waived to induce building, roads built or expanded for a new or expanding industry, pollution credits, zoning exemptions, etc. It happens in all states with a lot of different industries, and unfortuantly, some of our elected and appointed officials do recieve compensation for being a "friend" of industry.

The writer could have written a better article, in my opinion, if she would have focused on points such as extending the drillers responsibility for water wells from 1000' to 2500', but then giving limited liability to some drillers. Or how about taking way the right of low population density municipalties and counties to zone against drilling. I didn't see the specifications in the bill for those last two items, but I didn't read all 127 pages, I just skimmed through it. Too bad, looks like HB 1950 started out as a revenue bill, but the add ons really didn't help it.

All that said, I'm still not against drilling or fracking. I've read enough about the subject that I believe that if the anti fracking groups could just organize and gather enough real facts instead of spouting half truths and generalizations, then maybe they could sway opinion against fracking instead of appearing to be emotional crackpots.

And no, I'm not calling Shortgame a crackpot. Fracking has happened around me without causing any problems. We all care about what goes on in our own backyard, mine's fine, and he'd be a fool not to care about what happens around him.

Ken

 

[Jstpssng]

With the timber companies spraying herbicides directly into my water source, it will be hard for me to judge if I'm also reacting to fracking chemicals.

There is, in at least one profession, an oath taken to, "first, do no harm."

Unfortunately, in most for profit endeavors, it's "shoot first, ask questions later." Lawyers on retainer are asked about risk assessment. If someone or something gets damaged, will we make enough to cover it and still make our targeted earnings?

Just out of curiousity, what is that herbicide?