I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST

   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #31  
You can be cute and smart-alecy all you want.

Common sense dictates that there are some parts you fix.. and some parts you replace.

Take a brake drum in to a certified and insured machine/welding shop to have a crack fixed. ( they probably won't if they think it is for 'on road' use. ).

As a hyds shop to make up a line with break fittings on it... same answer as last example.

The axle trumpets on a tractor have to support the tractors weight.. plus towed or implement loads.

The rops are designed and certified based on mounting to those axle trumpets.. if the axle trumpets give away to easilly.. IE due to a repair.. then you may not be getting the full protection offered by the rops... Why take the -extra- risk.

You take -some- risk doing just about anything.


If you are a competent person .. R&R a tire is a reasonable risk... however.. to an all thumbs , or clumsy, or otherwise unfit person. then it may be an unacceptable risk.

If you think the repaired axle trumpets are such a great idea.. how about you go fix em for the poster, and then personally certify and guarantee them that they will perform up to the same standards of the original items.. then back it up with a high dollar insurance policy .. IE quit the arm-chair engineering, and put your money where your mouth is..

Hey.. wait a minute.. you aren't related to "renze" are you?

To the original poster... ask your dealer to weld up the axle trumpets and then to certify in writing that they will back them up ( warranty / liability issue-wise ) just like if they had put new ones on.

If you can get that.. I'll concede as being wrong...

Soundguy

8226hamer said:
I think I would just junk the tractor and never climb on another after reading soundguys last post. Removing rear wheels sounds very dangerous. I see the possibility of dropping one of the wheels on your foot, while jumping around screaming, yelling and cussing in pain, you trip over the jack handle, fall crack your noggin, cutting a severe gash in your head. Your wife comes to investigate your screams of agony, she sees you lying there out cold, and your blood coverd head, faints on the spot hitting her head also, on the cracked trumpet of all things, causing a severe gash. Before either of you come to you both bleed to death. Don't attempt this repair. The risk/benefit ratio of this type of repair is not good and your life is worth more than that etc..
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #32  
john_bud said:
Hammer - FREEZE!! Don't move a muscle. Ok, now carefully email me your address, then belly crawl to the door, toss out your tractor key. I'll be there in the morning to take away that potential death trap! Don't take any risks with getting paper cuts either. Leave all your money next to the tractor keys. Try and stay calm ... help is on the way...
I'm relieved your comming to help me out, but now I worry that ctpres has taken my advise and his tractor is a death trap. Money and tractor keys are waiting for you. When you head my way steer clear ctpres and his tractor. It has already done in a bunch of Nuns and orphans and may have even been the reason the Titanic sunk.
PS. I got carpet burns on my belly from the crawl to the door, I hope infection doesn't set in and kills me!
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #33  
Chris has it right on this one. If you weld a trumpet, you are asking for an accident to happen. When it breaks again, you have very high chance of turning it over and possibly get yourself crushed under it. I know the places that I take my tractor it wouldn't be a question of if it will break again and turn over, it would be a question of when will it break again. If you are on a steep place and the trumpet breaks on the low side, it will turn over. At times, those two rear axle trumpets bear all the weight of the tractor plus all the force which the tractor can put out when pushing and pulling.
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #34  
Soundguy is right on this call. "Stupid is -- as -- Stupid does".

Although his comment on "orphans and nuns" is pretty well over-the-top.

Gitch yer keester over to the dealer's and have a good talk with one of the ol' mechanics and then spend some "quality time" with the parts guy.

You'll have a darn better idea of whether or not yur gonna be turnin' the wrenches ad fixin' the tractor or the dealer is!

AKfish
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #35  
AKfish said:
Soundguy is right on this call. "Stupid is -- as -- Stupid does".

Although his comment on "orphans and nuns" is pretty well over-the-top.

Gitch yer keester over to the dealer's and have a good talk with one of the ol' mechanics and then spend some "quality time" with the parts guy.

You'll have a darn better idea of whether or not yur gonna be turnin' the wrenches ad fixin' the tractor or the dealer is!

AKfish
I suggested weldig it without knowing the location of the damaged area, **** crpres didn't even know for sure. It was the third post on this thread and I DID NOT KNOW THE SEVERITY OF THE DAMAGE DONE. The trumpet should be replaced, now I know that is what was damaged. It was the way soundguy expressed his feelings about me suggesting welding. A normal guy would have said that this is not the best solution for this repair, being now it was found out being that is was the trumpet, and replacing the trumpet is, and I would then agreed with him after finding this out. I don't mind being called crazy at all, but coming from him and his know it all attitude, it hit me wrong. Saying I'm crazy and giving crazy unsafe advise, betting the mans life on my advise, you would have thought i had a gun to his head and about to pull the trigger. It didn't sit real well with me concidering the situation. I really didn't think crpres was going to go out and fire up his trusty Miller and lay down a couple a beads and then jump back on the tractor and go back to work base on my suiggestion of welding it as a possible fix over the internet, when he himself didn't even know the extent of damage.
And his part about the Nuns and orphans I thought was a little out there, so I decided to follow him out and help him get back down, so my next two post followed in trying to help bring him back. I don't think they worked.
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #36  
Its going to be OK everyone, ctpres is not welding it, repeat, not welding it. Sound the trumphets. No orphans or nuns this time! :eek: I am relieved to see the concern over his safety. I think it would be only right at this time to point out another obvious but not mentioned "orphan and nun" situation. A ROPs protects you when you have a seatbelt on! I can't believe this has not been mentioned. Another point that will give us fewer orpahn and nun stories, diet, yes, the number one killer in the US is heart disease yet I have yet to see it mentioned. I suggest we get busy filling this thread up with more advice on this topic. I'll start. Bacon in moderation. Less time in front of the computer building post numbers and more time doing active cardio work. (of course consult your doctor before doing this)

PS; This post was over almost on the first page, reread it. This horse is not only dead, its been buried. OUT....
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #37  
I'm curious to hear from ctpres to find out if the tractor has been repaired and for how much $. Good to know in case it happens to me.
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #38  
Setting aside the misfortune of the man's tractor, this is one funny thread...

I have a forum of another genre of discussions and we have some characters there, with all too funny stories throughout their daily lives....

This is a classic.. :D
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #39  
Shimon said:
I'm curious to hear from ctpres to find out if the tractor has been repaired and for how much $. Good to know in case it happens to me.

That's what I'm curious about. Keep us updated ctpres

I kind of also feel like several people need a hug after reading the rest of the thread.
 
   / I Broke It $ $ $ 3400 HST #40  
Soundguy said:
and in the aftermatch the school buss full of orphans and nuns' wrecks and burns tryingto avoid running into you cause you saved a few hundred bucks on a repair vs a replacement.

Well I guess you don't have to worry about the orphans sueing you if they all die huh. But the Nuns will take your --- downtown.

hehe, sorry the orphans comment was flopping around like a fish out of water, I had to kick it back in before it died. :D :D
 

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