I found a peice of rural land 25 years ago......

[Hay Dude]

Y'all's movin' to the wrong places. Most of the land around me isn't buildable due to the fact it's often covered with 2 -3 feet of water for weeks at a time. That happens every 5 years or so on average. The rest of the time it's farmland. Road floods too and I've been flooded in for over a month at times. My little hovel is on a hill 30' above all that though.

One Cali numbskull had a hill built for himself though. Several days of 3 or 4 earthpans from a local construction company dug a pond and made the hill ... about 5 feet above flood stage. Can't imagine what it cost him, but I've seen water just a few feet from his front door.

Other direction is too steep and hilly to build on.

'Freedom' is not having 25 houses where there should be one. 'Freedom' is not being able to hear your neighbor flush. 'Freedom' is not being able to see another house (at least when the leaves are on the trees.)

Freedom is being able to exercise ones constitutional rights.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

We were just in Florida and the number of homes being built there is reason alone to travel to Florida. Its like a refugee occupation of another country down there. Lumber prices be damned. Anyone with a tool pouch and basic knowledge is working 70 hours a week putting up homes as fast as they can be built. The Villages are quadrupling in size. Everywhere along the major highways 1000 home developments are going up. Highways being doubled in width and off ramps being built into entire new towns that were once a crossroad in a swamp. Everywhere you look, construction.
My wifes step mother just retired from being a realtor pre-boom there. Said theres not enough realtors, construction or financing people in the world to support their building boom.
Florida has gained almost 3 million people in 10 years and a 1/4 million in just the past year alone. Meanwhile, New York lost almost a 1/2 million people in the same period of time.
Theres just no denying most Americans love freedom. Now it will be interesting to see if after they move to states with more freedom, will they want to keep it that way?

And it makes me sick, but there is no stopping progress, unless the inevitable recession that's coming does.

 

[ultrarunner]

Single Family Zoning is being done away with and often residents fight it tooth and nail but few successes unless endangered habitat or wetland...

Building is booming but water in the West remains in short supply and many reminisce just a year ago travel without gridlock and cheap fuel...

 

[tradosaurus]

I've sit on 45 acres in rural East Texas. The town is unincorporated with a school K-12 of less than 400 students. No evidence of civilization moving my way either and I hope it doesn't for the next 30 yrs.

 

[grsthegreat]

Are these the refugees we see on TV fleeing from neighboring, more oppressive states that have lots of wildfires?
Florida is receiving 1000 freedom lovers PER DAY

You got it. Last year one of the newbys that moved here for “freedom” called the sheriffs dept to report me shooting on my gun range. As they probibly hid under their sofa. Sheriffs did nothing. i only heard about it from a cop friend of mine. They move for freedom, then try to change the way we do things that make us free. Pisses me off to no end.

 

[hosspuller]

Or the newbies, fight against the further development that built their homes. "my children play in the stub street, you can't extend it to connect more roads"

 

[Oaktree]

Florida has gained almost 3 million people in 10 years and a 1/4 million in just the past year alone. Meanwhile, New York lost almost a 1/2 million people in the same period of time.
Theres just no denying most Americans love freedom. Now it will be interesting to see if after they move to states with more freedom, will they want to keep it that way?

Not quite following you, what "freedom" do Floridians have that those in other states don't? All those new developments have HOAs, with rules up the wazoo.
Of anyone I've known who's moved to Florida, the main reason seems to be to get away from cold/ice/snow.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Not quite following you, what "freedom" do Floridians have that those in other states don't? All those new developments have HOAs, with rules up the wazoo.
Of anyone I've known who's moved to Florida, the main reason seems to be to get away from cold/ice/snow.

No income tax? Conservative minded governor? Just guessing.

 

[Hay Dude]

Not quite following you, what "freedom" do Floridians have that those in other states don't? All those new developments have HOAs, with rules up the wazoo.
Of anyone I've known who's moved to Florida, the main reason seems to be to get away from cold/ice/snow.

Really?
How about the Freedom of easier gun ownership rights?
Freedom from high state taxes (Florida has no state tax).
Freedom from mandatory union membership (right to work state).
Theres a bunch more if you want them…..

 

[PuffyC]

I have a place where there’s no state income tax and one where there is. They both get their money one way or the other.