I found a peice of rural land 25 years ago......

[Ken45101]

As they say real estate, location, location, location.

Not much developing around here. I bought this place 20 years ago and there might be one or two LESS residents in a mile radius than there was 20 years ago. (100 year old topo maps show more houses then than now.) We are in the steep hills near the river (400' above flood stage). No neighbors across the road behind us, none across the road n front (can't see the road anyway.) Fortunately, we have the only bridges for 60 miles either way and the other side of the river has most anything we need. (Southern Ohio, across the river from Maysville Ky.)

 

[Hay Dude]

I have a place where there’s no state income tax and one where there is. They both get their money one way or the other.

Some states are far more fiscally responsible and less corrupt than others.
Taxes aren’t the only reason to move to Florida.
Been more than a few NFL players that’s chosen a Florida team over a high tax state team.

 

[PuffyC]

Some states are far more fiscally responsible and less corrupt than others.
Taxes aren’t the only reason to move to Florida.
Been more than a few NFL players that’s chosen a Florida team over a high tax state team.

You're right, when you make $15 million a year you probably don't want to live in a state with an income tax. My point was more directed towards those who mistakenly think no state income tax is automatically better when it isn't. There are some cases where it's better and others where it's not. Those in the middle will likely pay the same either way, the only difference is what you call it.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

And naively, I thought it would remain rural, during my life time. Of coarse I can see that I'm the first problem, to have built here in the first place, 25 years ago. When it was truly in the woods up an almost impassable road with no utilities. This is what I wanted, and the rules for having a house on F2 land were very stringent. Last year, I guesss the rules were changed, cause every legal plot all around me has a house being built. And it is happening fast, this year. I should not complain. I just didn't know it could happen so fast, and on all the properties around me,... so fast in one year, they are building!

Every d***n time someone dies around here the heirs turn the property over to an auction house that promptly divides it into 5 acre lots. I get it, that’s the way to get absolute top dollar for a piece of land, but it sure is sad seeing 100 acre farms turned into 20 small plots and sold to 20 people who think they’re going to be “living in the country”, or more likely camping out and trying to hunt shoulder to shoulder with their neighbors.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

You got it. Last year one of the newbys that moved here for “freedom” called the sheriffs dept to report me shooting on my gun range. As they probibly hid under their sofa. Sheriffs did nothing. i only heard about it from a cop friend of mine. They move for freedom, then try to change the way we do things that make us free. Pisses me off to no end.

Are you shooting where you can be seen from the road or from their house? Are you pointing your firearms in the direction of their property? Are you within 100 feet of the property line? All of those things would make a reasonable person uncomfortable and so I don’t do them. While I do enjoy occasional target practice I don’t keep any area of my property configured as a “gun range.” Bullets can be lethal a mile away. Do you have your “gun range” backstopped to absolutely prevent projectile travel behind the targets or beyond your property lines? In my case I backstop with the side of a large hill that I own.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^^
I've had it happen twice... once while doing the property line of a client's land, the other while walking a power line for a project. The first time, the target was set up just off the property line but also above a deep gully with a stream at the bottom... and a road on our client's land not very far down from the guy's target. The other time, the target was just off the powerline with the trajectory through it into... where ever it landed.
When the first guy started shooting I was just starting up the chainsaw to move a tree out of the way when something went flying over my head. I got the *.* out of there, fast.
Apparently there is no law against not having a backstop, until that backstop turns out to be a person.

On the powerline, I was on my way back to the truck after passing through a couple of hours earlier and was about 50 yards past the trajectory of his target when he started shooting. I'm convinced that one was deliberate. He didn't like somebody that close to his house... despite that I was on somebody else's land.

 

[grsthegreat]

Are you shooting where you can be seen from the road or from their house? Are you pointing your firearms in the direction of their property? Are you within 100 feet of the property line? All of those things would make a reasonable person uncomfortable and so I don’t do them. While I do enjoy occasional target practice I don’t keep any area of my property configured as a “gun range.” Bullets can be lethal a mile away. Do you have your “gun range” backstopped to absolutely prevent projectile travel behind the targets or beyond your property lines? In my case I backstop with the side of a large hill that I own.

im on 30 acres. range is in middle..probibly 1200' to property line. i have a railroad tie backstop. property is all treed.

sheriffs could care less if i shoot here. totally legal.

 

[ponytug]

"That ain't a knife,...this is a knife...."

Nice backstop there @grsthegreat!

All the best, Peter

 

[ultrarunner]

Reaction to shooting or the sound of shots will quickly separate most country and city folks...

As sprawl encroaches way of life changes ..

As a kid there was a skeet range right off the highway... once in awhile we asked to pull over and watch the clay pigeons fall...

This was a busy road with a several hundred acre field and huge hillside backdrop...

I can only imagine if some were to be in that same area today with a shotgun.

Just like my neighbor would take the bus and go bird hunting down by the Oakland Airport or coach would do a little target practice with gophers at the high school ballfield... our star quarter player broke his ankle on a new gopher hole...

 

[Bill Guenthner]

im on 30 acres. range is in middle..probibly 1200' to property line. i have a railroad tie backstop. property is all treed.

sheriffs could care less if i shoot here. totally legal.View attachment 741402View attachment 741403

That’s a great backstop! But I wouldn’t want to live next to anyone who shoots more than occasionally. I like quiet and undisturbed wildlife.