---I hate Kubota at times!!!!!!, so long Messick catalogs online...SAD.

[alchemysa]

Have any of you guys ever bought a parts catalogue for your car? Probably not and you probably wouldn't, even if they were available.

So I doubt this has got much to do with Kubota losing sales of 'Parts Catalogs'. The parts diagrams are available on ebay for about $10 which probably indicates their market value. My guess is that relatively few people will actually pay good money for a catalog and Kubota knows this. (Anyway, Kubota dealers have been giving away parts catalogs for years).

I'd suggest this is more about Messicks overstepping their franchise zone and becoming the defacto on-line parts supplier for the entire US. By publishing prices they really cut out the need for anyone to contact their local dealer. I can see why local dealers would be peed off. Especially the smaller ones who don't have Messicks resources. (I'm not knocking Messicks. Just looking at it from another angle).

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Guess I have to respond to this one. I see this info can be bought for $200 to $300 so it apparently has a value/cost. It has no value to me and I would guess 95% of Kubota owners. Nothings free. You say other tractor compnaies are giving these manuals away in one form or the other. JD wanted $3000 more for an equal tractor 6 years ago when I bought my first tractor and NH wanted $2500 more. I chose Kubota now 10 times over those other brands. If Kubota provides free stuff that only 5% of their buyers want/need then the rest of us have to pay for it. Someone is paying for it. In JD and NH's case, if they are providing it "free" then all buyers are paying for it not just the users as in Kubotas case. What about free oil filters for life for all buyers or even free SUDT for life for all buyers. Nothing is free but if you use it you should pay for it and not expect me and the rest of us that don't want it to suppliment or pay for it for you. Now Messicks tried/did to help their parts sales by bypassing the sellers of this info and it has finally came to an end. They had a money making objective in mind for their posting of this info and that's great but the company that owns the product that they were giving away to benefit their company(Messicks) has finally protested. Seems no one knows whether Kubota is loosing/making money off of this knowledge or the company that Kubota gave/sold this info to. Anyway, someone has protested that they are losing money by this info being given away free. Now if you feel Messicks has your best interests at heart and not their income producing company then they will buy this info and give it to you free. I can tell you that's not going to happen. They need/want to make money so they shared someone elses product for awhile since it was free for them but they are not going to now pay for it to share it with you. If they did, then they would have to raise their prices on all their products to stay in business, even on parts that people that don't want/use this info buy from them. They had a good run and be thankful for what you got free for awhile and hurry and download it before it's gone.

I am sorry, I guess I didn't realize Kubota made these parts diagrams to sell specifically and not to give to their dealers parts departments for selling parts. Kubota had to make these anyway so what does it actually cost them? The only cost I see is hosting these on a server for everyone to see but they already should have it on a server for their dealers to connect to. If they don't want to do that and want to sell copies to owners then that is their choice but I sure do hope this isn't a sign of Kubota hurting for money if they have to charge for simple parts diagrams that even MTD gives you when you buy a throw away lawn mower for $100.

 

[shownuff]

does this mean that tractor smart will be shut too?

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

does this mean that tractor smart will be shut too?

No one is being shut down, infact very little will really change. All thats happening is that the parts catalogs are comming off the website. That is all. We're still here, you just have to ask for the diagrams rather than us posting them publicly. This impacts us more than anyone, and even I am looking at some of these posts and thinking they are a bit over the top.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

No one is being shut down, infact very little will really change. All thats happening is that the parts catalogs are comming off the website. That is all. We're still here, you just have to ask for the diagrams rather than us posting them publicly. This impacts us more than anyone, and even I am looking at some of these posts and thinking they are a bit over the top.

Neil, you need to set up a parts program for Agco now. I am starting to look up parts to fix up a MF 39 planter and I can get the parts numbers from Agco's parts site but I have no idea if the parts are even still available. My MF dealer is 30 minutes away and isn't one of my favorites to deal with but it looks like I will have to make the time to go visit them with part numbers as I don't know of any good online sites like yours or Deers that deal with MF parts

 

[Deano]

Don't get me wrong, I liked and used Messick's website AND I own a mantenance and parts manual for my tractor.

We all have cars, some expensive. How many car dealers give you a parts manual??

Deano

 

[DavidVT]

A very nice catalog! I just checked it out for my model tractor before it goes away. Someone did a nice job on that!!

Kubota L3430DT/GST/HST(C) Parts Diagrams

Is there really a way to 'download' it? It looks to be a scripted site.

 

[IdahoTractor]

Kubota had to make these anyway so what does it actually cost them?

It doesn't matter what it cost Kubota to make them. It is Kubota's property...and not ours to steal.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

It doesn't matter what it cost Kubota to make them. It is Kubota's property...and not ours to steal.

I never said anyone had the right to use this without permission. I was discussing a point that another member said that this cost Kubota money and the Neils site was costing them sales. So it does matter what it cost Kubota if people are trying to say that Kubota would lose money if they put these online at the corporate level like all three of the other major brands have already done for a while now.

 

[bp fick]

There have been two competing thoughts here on this thread that need to be kept separate. These get embroiled here and I'd like to believe there is much common ground to agree upon.

1. Kubota's intellectual property is theirs. Absolutely fair. True. It's the law of copyright in this country.

2. That said, doing customer assistance in a progressive, modern and helpful way is the sign of a good company. Period. Assisting the customer to purchase the parts they need is vital to the health of any machinery company.