I thought Yanmars were for people on a budget

[Smoody]

I have been getting price quotes on 4 WD Yanmars w/ Loaders in the Ym2210-Ym2610 size range and am being quoted anywhere from 9k-12k. Now before I start this rant I currently own a YM2001 2WD and I think Yanmars are excellent tractors, However I think they are being WAY overpriced seeing as they are 30 year old machines, I mean c'mon I am pricing Kubota/Deere's in this same size range less then 10 years old in this price range.

I have researched importing, gotten inventory list w/prices shipped here to the US. The markup on these machines now are HUGE and ridiculous. Can anyone tell me why spend 12k on a 1980's model Yanmar with 1,000+ hours, painted pretty with US safety equipment on them instead of buying a BRAND NEW Kubota or Cub Cadet/Yanmar with 0 hours, 3 year warranty, 0% financing for only a few thousand more?

IMO 8-9k should be MAX price on the largest Yanmars imported.
EDIT** - 8-9k MAX WITH US safety features and a Koyker loader.

I realize what I think is irrelevant just had to speak my mind.

Unreal.

 

[normde2001]

Yanmars are only a bargain for DIY'ers. If you have to pay someone $100+ per hour to make it pretty and then ask top $ for it, then there is no bargain. Only fools buy those tractors.

 

[kthompson]

Not trying to tackle some of your questions but I looked at the imported gray market tractors a few years back and am so so glad passed on them.

 

[Smoody]

Norm you are absolutely correct. I'll just keep looking for a used one on craigslist and put a loader on it, still will save 2-4k.

Kthompson, I think the Yanmars are great reliable machines, my problem isn't with the brand its with the US importers markup.

example, I seen 2210's on the inventory sheet with less then 1,000 hours - cost = $2200, but when they get them here, add paint, decals, and a loader cost = $9,000 +

Keep it.

 

[HoyeTractor]

It is just like anything else - the more popular something gets the more it starts to cost. You can almost always find better deals from individuals but you will usually have to spend a lot of time looking for that perfect deal.

You might want to shop around a little more though. $9k does sound a little high. For example I see Little Miami (lmtcompany.com) lists a YM2210 with a ROPS for $4,600.

That is a fair price since the $2,200 price you mentioned does not probably include shipping to the USA, cargo insurance, offloading, customs fees, duties, terminal handling fees, a ROPS, PLUS any expenses involved in painting, servicing, PLUS those things that can and will go wrong like your container getting dropped, damaged merchandise, etc. Those things add up QUICK!

I would also recommend comparing the New Yanmars or Kubotas to the older YM2210 for example. I think you will see why the newer ones are less expensive They just don't make them like that anymore.


Aaron
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[Smoody]

It is just like anything else - the more popular something gets the more it starts to cost. You can almost always find better deals from individuals but you will usually have to spend a lot of time looking for that perfect deal.

You might want to shop around a little more though. $9k does sound a little high. For example I see Little Miami (lmtcompany.com) lists a YM2210 with a ROPS for $4,600.

That is a fair price since the $2,200 price you mentioned does not probably include shipping to the USA, cargo insurance, offloading, customs fees, duties, terminal handling fees, a ROPS, PLUS any expenses involved in painting, servicing, PLUS those things that can and will go wrong like your container getting dropped, damaged merchandise, etc. Those things add up QUICK!

I would also recommend comparing the New Yanmars or Kubotas to the older YM2210 for example. I think you will see why the newer ones are less expensive They just don't make them like that anymore.


Aaron
Hoye Tractor Parts
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Aaron you make a good point about the quality of the build, older tractors are definately built heavier then whats selling today, good example is the old Ford 3000-4000 series, excellent built tractors.

The $2200 price I mention on a YM2210 was indeed without all those fee's, BUT that was MY price quote, I will never believe a HUGE importer would be qouted the exact same price as me seeing as they probably order 100's of tractors a year vs. my maybe once in a lifetime load.

The YM2210 for $4600 is a fair price, but its not 4WD nor does it have a loader, add those it will be pushing $9,000.

 

[PBYAN2]

Guess I stole my "NEW" YM2000 from a private seller for $850.00

 

[California]

Guess I stole my "NEW" YM2000 from a private seller for $850.00

No, it sounds like you bought a stolen Yanmar from the seller who offered it to you at that price.

 

[Taylortractornut]

I have a a YM3000 I bought from dad he bought it in 98 with a cracked block. He gave another 800 for a 200 hour take off skid engine. Dad kept it till 5 years ago then I bought it. Theres a man from Memphis TN that buys Yanmars and repaints them and puts any loader he can find on them and resells. Hes pestered me every 2 weeks for the last year and a half to sell him my tractor. Its a straight old tracto and in good shape. I think last weeks offer was for him to give me a Jinma and Shengfu tractor for my 3000. And he tells me that my old tractors as he calls it isnt worth much.

 

[PBYAN2]

For me has been a really good deal. Not running when I bought it. But thanks to Hoye tractor I fixed it.
Last week end used it to build 500' of fence. Pulling a 4' Howse Bush hog to clear fence row. Heavy brush 8' to 10' high. Tractor would ride down most of it. Sometimes would hit something around 2" or so that the tractor would not push over. Just hit it with a chain saw and then ride it down and chop it up.
Very happy with my cheap tractor.

 

[California]

You did good. I wish I could find deals like that!

 

[kenmac]

I have a a YM3000 I bought from dad he bought it in 98 with a cracked block. He gave another 800 for a 200 hour take off skid engine. Dad kept it till 5 years ago then I bought it. Theres a man from Memphis TN that buys Yanmars and repaints them and puts any loader he can find on them and resells. Hes pestered me every 2 weeks for the last year and a half to sell him my tractor. Its a straight old tracto and in good shape. I think last weeks offer was for him to give me a Jinma and Shengfu tractor for my 3000. And he tells me that my old tractors as he calls it isnt worth much.

I wouldn't trade my bicycle for a Jinma & I wouldn't trade my yanmar for a truck load of Jinma's

 

[kenmac]

You might want to shop around a little more though. $9k does sound a little high. For example I see Little Miami (lmtcompany.com) lists a YM2210 with a ROPS for $4,600.

Smoody where are you shopping ??

 

[Taylortractornut]

Kenmac I told him something similar to that but not as nice as you put it lol. This old man buys them and slaps on a paint job Earl shive would be proud of. and slaps a loader on them. THey sell them for an outrageous price. I told him repeatedly that my 3000 is exactly what i wanted and its not for sale. This spring he was after my tiller and KK finish mower.

 

[PBYAN2]

Tractor---Antique Yanmar
This one showed up today, two exits down I-95 from me. Asked the guy how green paint added 27 HP to it. Told him how it was a grey market tractor, Maybe can not get parts for it. All that good stuff.
Made him an offer.
Don't need it, Already have two Yanmars.
But if he's stupid enough to accept my offer, Then I'm stupid enough to buy it.
We wait, We see.

 

[California]

Tractor---Antique Yanmar
This one showed up today

I don't think it's a YM1900. Look at his picture - the hood side panels are far ahead of the radiator. That hood is off a longer tractor that had the exhaust coming through the center of the hood.

The vertical air cleaner doesn't look right, it looks like a YM1500. The 3-point arm stabilizers look like YM1500. He says 2 speed PTO, YM1900 has three.

Here's a link to his Craigslist photo. (will disappear when the ad expires).

That looks to be a Frankenstein-Mar, maybe a YM1500 with a YM2200 hood???

For comparison I found two dealers' listings with photos of real YM1900's.

RCO.

Techsys.


PBYAN2, a YM1900 should be a near twin to your YM2000, in fact I think it is the same thing but an earlier version. I hope you didn't offer him much.

 

[Neat 1500]

I would almost put money on it that it is a YM1500 also with the lid off something else

 

[PBYAN2]

I'm curious now. Maybe should go look at it just for grins.
Guess my offer insulted him. Have not heard back.

 

[Smoody]

Smoody where are you shopping ??

Kenmac, all the prices I have gotten are from UTDA dealers. I don't see a point in naming names, but they are "respected" dealers.

Here ya go, exact qoute:

YM2310D with 125 Koyker Loader $10,200.

I have seen JD 790's with buckets on craigslist for 8-11k, 2000+ models, 300-600 Hours on them.

 

[California]

I'm curious now. Maybe should go look at it just for grins.
Guess my offer insulted him. Have not heard back.

I hope you insulted him good!

I posted some questions through Craigslist to the seller of that green Frankenstein-Mar. Here's her reply:

this tractor is a gray market tractor. It has Japanese tags. I talked with a lot of people and an antique tractor dealer in Georgia. That was their best guess. They could not figure out what I had. The American made tractor did not have a low and high speed PTO. This one does. It is a 2-cyl diesel watercooled engine, but does not have a waterpump. Every tractor dealer here that I deal with, I am a diesel mechanic, could not figure out what it was. We have done a lot of research. It may not be a YM 1900, but that was the closest match with a picture that we could make.

This doesn't answer my question about the horsepower stated in the engine tag. Has anyone else asked the seller a question?

Good luck to whoever buys that "40 horsepower" monster.

The real dealers on here warn us about roadside sellers. This is the clearest example I've ever seen illustrating a trap for some inexperienced buyer. That thing is literally cobbled together out of unrelated parts.