I'm Gonna Drill My Rops...

   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #11  
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I drilled two holes to put work lights on the bottom side of my ROPS. This works great for me but if I do deceide to sell the tractor I will just weld the hole shut.
PJ
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #12  
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<font color="red"> I drilled two holes to put work lights on the bottom side of my ROPS. This works great for me but if I do deceide to sell the tractor I will just weld the hole shut.
PJ </font>

and of course welding also voids the warrenty . . .
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #13  
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Henro,
I'm with you too.
Sometimes we choke on a gnat while trying to swallow an elephant. Everybody has their own set of safety sensitivities. I have my own. It's funny sometimes though when you hear other's concerns on a given topic, yet they do things you would personally consider much riskier.

If your response is "I wouldn't drill the ROPS due to personal safety concerns", how would you answer these questions:

1) Do you run your vehicle tires until nearly slick, or do you think safety and replace them well before they reach the 'legally worn out' stage? Do you buy average tires or the ones with the best traction (wet/dry/snow) and handling in their size class?
3) Does your vehicle have the highest safety rating in its class? Nobody here is going to go buy a Heritage F150 instead of the new model with its GREATLY improved safety just to save a few bucks, are you? You would never consider buying a convertable sports car due to no roll over protection, would you?
4) Do you ride an ATV through the woods or ride a motorcycle?
5) Do you drive more than a few miles over the speed limit?
6) Do you ALWAYS follow all the safety rules when working in the shop? ( not MOST, but ALL. It's those tiny short cuts that cause most of injuries)
7) How long did it take you to replace the brake light on your truck the last time one went out?
8) Do you smoke cigarettes? Are you significantly over weight? Are you in good physical shape?

See, all of these items probably carry a much higher injury potential than drilling a couple of small holes in the ROPS. I'm guilty as heck on several of the questions listed above (Except the one about tires...my personal pet peeve...I have NEVER gone over 45k on a set of tires...just my personal sensitivity).

To make a long story short...I have new lights for ROPS in the shop. Plan to install in next month or two. Yes, I will drill ROPS becasue I feel the risk is very minimal. That May be one of the least risky things I do that day (MOST dangerous is when driving down the highway to Hardware store for parts to make the light assembly).

Everything's relative. We always have to make judgement calls in everything we do because there's risk in everything we do. I wouldn't recommend anyone else drilling the ROPS, just stating that my personal prioritization of risks puts the ROPS well down the risk-list compared to other things I do.
Results may vary.
Have a safe evening!
roger
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #14  
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If you drill holes in your ROPS, the fearsome ROPS Fairy will visit you during the night and remove all the money from your wallet leaving you only with charged-to-the-maximum credit cards. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

....or maybe I have that confused with my ex-wife. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #15  
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<font color="green">
I drilled two holes to put work lights on the bottom side of my ROPS. This works great for me but if I do deceide to sell the tractor I will just weld the hole shut.
PJ

and of course welding also voids the warrenty . . . </font>

Right. Thats why you should just Bondo-over any holes and re-paint the ROPS /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif. Assuming a new coat of paint doesn't void the warranty /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

The warranty is not really trhe issue here - if the ROPS fails the warranty would still only be good for a new or repaired ROPS. I doubt that the warranty would indemnify the owner or seller of the tractor against liability of somebody getting hurt.

The issue of liability will be settled in court or in negotiations with various insurance companies regardless.

- Rick
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #16  
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<font color="green"> I have NEVER gone over 45k on a set of tires...j </font>

Heck, I can't get more than about 16,000 miles life out of the non-all-weather, summer-only rear tires on my convertible sports car.

Must be too much speeding.

It does have a non-drilled roll-bar, though.

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

- Rick
 

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   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #17  
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Well personally I have nothing against drilling into the ROPS. In another thread I stated the reasons why I chose not to. Those are my reasons and I would not impose them on any others. What I did was right for me.

However, I would like to argue against fraud.

<font color="red"> you should just Bondo-over any holes and re-paint the ROPS. </font>

I think "keeney" makes a lot of common sense points that I don't have any problem with however the one statement above is the thing that I totally have to argue with. If you Bondo over something to intentionally hide it, and if there ever is an accident in the future, then you just committed fraud, and it is not likely an insurance company will bail you out of financial problems, and it, however remote as it sounds, could land you in some deep legal problems.

You would be much better off simply disclosing the fact that you drilled holes in the ROPS and have the buyer sign a receipt for the tractor that says he understands holes were drilled in the ROPS and accepts any liability and responsibility for the modification in the future.
 
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<font color="red"> However, I would like to argue against fraud.

</font>
Sorry, I forgot the smiley. It was a facetious statement. Meant to poke fun at the fact that trying to hide or repair the holes may actually be worse than just leaving them there.

- Rick
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #19  
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Well I didn't mean to start an arguement, but sometimes what we write is not understood by others the way we mean it. (I know because I am totally guilty of that on a regular basis).


All that said, when I asked the salesman at one of the dealers I use about putting lights on the ROPS he told me to drill into it! He is a real farmer full time and tractor salesman part time, he said he drills into his tractors to mount whatever he needs. It is just practical.

I live on hills. I want my ROPS in perfect condition because I've almost flipped one of my machines, and that was on flat smooth asphalt! But for most of us, I really doubt there is any real risk in drilling into the ROPS.
 
   / I'm Gonna Drill My Rops... #20  
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Hi
there's a big hole drilled in the fold over ROPS
charlie
 

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