I'm not some HMO Karen,, but whats going on in Rural Lane County Oregon just seems crazy.

[D&D]

What is "1 in 20 zoning"? Never heard the term before, and a Google search didn't turn up anything useful.

1 residential unit per 20 acres

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Home Owner Associations seem to be loosing their bite in court more and more today.

thank God. Now courts need to calm down zoning rules, and let owners use their land.

 

[MoKelly]

Do you read all the fine print in every document you sign or EULA you have to OK to install a program on a computer? No one else does either.

Buying a house and downloading a computer program are very different things.

Anyone who buys a house and fails to read the closing and HOA documents - well, as Forrest Gump’s mother always said - stupid is as stupid does.

 

[D&D]

Buying a house and downloading a computer program are very different things.

Anyone who buys a house and fails to read the closing and HOA documents - well, as Forrest Gump’s mother always said - stupid is as stupid does.

IMO, anyone buying a house with an HOA is self-inflicting damage. Irritating that they all want to complain after the fact.

 

[DarkBlack]

Buying a house and downloading a computer program are very different things.

Anyone who buys a house and fails to read the closing and HOA documents - well, as Forrest Gump’s mother always said - stupid is as stupid does.

The rules and regulations of an HOA are absolutely required reading for any potential buyer.
You’d have to be ignorant to not read it at least twice.
It’s not even remotely equivalent to pages of irrelevant lawyer boilerplate in computer software disclosures

 

[JasperFrank]

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.

However, Urban Sprawl is a problem around a lot of cities. Oregon has tried to have land use planning. But, perhaps it is failing.

20+ acres are often working farms. Perhaps even 10 acres. But, 2 to 5 acres, and they're just home sites that people mow super large lawns.

A few years ago there was a ballot measure that essentially invalidated minimum parcel sizes.

Oregon Measure 37, Compensation for Land Use Restrictions that Decrease Property Value Initiative (2004)

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

So, if your family owned property before it was rezoned to say 20 acre agricultural, or some large plot forestry zoning, then it would require the government to say make up the difference between perhaps 1 acre zoning, 5 acre zoning, 20 acre zoning, or 50 acre zoning. Essentially invalidating the whole zoning. At least for certain older property.

Many of the old farm houses from before the 1950's just need to get bulldozed and replaced. Tiny, falling apart, and nothing worth much in them. The lot is more valuable than the house.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to manufactured homes for quite some time. There is a manufacturer near Albany, Oregon, that used to advertise a lot. I have a second cousin in Nevada that got a 2 story (or one story + basement) manufactured home about 30 years ago. It seemed like a neat concept. But I didn't realize they had made it to Oregon. I haven't stayed in touch with that family, and unfortunately the whole family didn't survive well.

Manufactured homes are unique. They can have good insulation, but they seem to cut corners absolutely everywhere in the manufacturing.

I have an acquaintance that has 5 acres. It came with one partial house (not a fully functional legal house), and one single wide trailer that had an attached enclosed patio/living area. They moved in a double wide. And another single wide.

Now planning to tear out the original single wide and moving in a new double wide.

And probably build a stick built tiny home.

That tiny lot currently has 6 adults living there (2 disabled), and 2 more coming. I'm not quite sure why the government hasn't just said NO.

I'm F2. Which required at least 20 acres for a single dwelling and lots of hoops to jump through. Or at least I think I still am. Recently a neighbor, was able to carve out 6 build-able lots on his 60 acres- which was also F2. I didn't think this was even possible given Oregon's stringent land use laws. This made my land worth much more, cause I could do the same now, yet, that isn't my point here. Maybe my point is pointless and I should be happy. Cut down the trees and carve it up for development, is what everyone else is doing. Its like zoning really doesn't mean anything now, if you can put three trailers on your R5 property and charge rents? How the hell do the septic and well systems work on that deal?
And I am sympathetic of people living in town, cause holding companies HAVE bought up most all the rentals and have a monopoly on rental rates. Which are insanely high. And home owners in town are hit with huge taxes, for things they get no benefit from. Yet, that is just one part of the issue. The other is that the "Unhoused" are mostly out of state, drug addicts that come here because the social services are better than anywhere else. This is my real horror, is that these Trailers, are these druggies that have figured out a place to stay with out being moved. Allowed now, by relaxing zoning laws.

 

[Cycledude]

I'm seeing multi-thousand dollar two story homes moved in on wheels. Not just camper type trailers. These are bigger than the original house that is, I guess, was establishing the rent. Its very odd to me to see this happen, every where, and to think how stupid it was to follow the land use rules I was given. Yes, this is a rant. Cause the whole point to following the rules was to restrict stuff like this.

Do you have any pictures of these 2 story homes on wheels ?
A local 1 story home near me sold for $1 because a Credit Union wants to build on the lot, the guy that bought the house had to pay $31,000 to have it moved less than 1 mile and set down on his own freshly poured slab of concrete, the house formerly had a full basement.

 

[JasperFrank]

 

[1Mech]

I would call that rv a single story with a loft, not a two story. Probably over $100,000, he doesn't say.

 

[MossRoad]

thank God. Now courts need to calm down zoning rules, and let owners use their land.

Except for wind farms, solar farms, concentrated animal feeding operations, dairy farms, chicken farms, landfills, junkyards, drags strips, airports, multi-family housing, gas stations/convenience stores, strip malls. ....

Just depends on who's doing what next door to make us love or hate zoning.