Inexpensive Welding Solution?????

   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #91  
"The least expensive welding solution" would be a friend's welder that you can borrow.

In the long run, an inexpensive (fill in the blank) solution is usually not the cheapest thing you can buy. I have learned this the hard way, far too many times.

FWIW, you can put WTB ads on Craig's List as well.
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #92  
I have found that the cheapest welder is one that belongs to a fellow that knows what he's doing and doesnt charge you an arm and a leg. That way you are pretty well assured you have a good weld. :D

Now I know this will offend a lot of people that have their own welders and have learned on their own but facts is facts. A lot of them home grown welds just may not be that sturdy.:D
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #93  
Egon said:
...Now I know this will offend a lot of people that have their own welders and have learned on their own but facts is facts. A lot of them home grown welds just may not be that sturdy.:D

Well now, Egon, I have two welders, stick and mig, and most of what I know about welding comes from my own trial and error. So, I guess I'm one of those people you expect to offend. But, am I offended? Absolutely not! I'd be foolish to trust my welds where there is significant risk to life or limb.
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #94  
Boy, I guess I'm gonna be a pariah if I state my opinion on here, the way it's going, but here goes, anyhow! I bought an old used Lincoln "buzz-box" 40+ years ago, and learned on it and used it for twenty years. My Mom (who had learned how to O/A weld on jerry cans during the war) taught me how to gas weld, and I built my first boat trailer that way out of steel I'd salvaged from the old city dump. A cousin taught me one evening how to arc weld, and I found and bought the old Lincoln. Since then, I've repaired my trucks, built trailers (which I still use), designed furniture for the house & patio, and built and installed hi-rise signs all over Missouri and surrounding states. We have graduated from the old buzzbox (sold it years ago, still in good working order); we now have two Miller bobcats on the sign cranes, a large Lincoln wire-feed in the shop, and a couple of Hypertherm plasmas. My son (Mcfly) and I have built trailers, tractor implements, or anything else we need. We have signs 80 feet in the air that weigh as much as the family car, which were put there by a crane than is held together in part by our uneducated, self-taught welds. I don't remember ever having a welded part break.
All that drivel to say that if you wanna learn to weld, buy a decent piece of equipment, cabbage onto every piece of scrap steel you can, ask for advice when you need to, and GO FOR IT!
There's a whole world of things out there waiting for someone to weld them up ... don't listen to the naysayers! There's nothing wrong with learning for yourself.
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #95  
Egon said:
I have found that the cheapest welder is one that belongs to a fellow that knows what he's doing and doesnt charge you an arm and a leg. That way you are pretty well assured you have a good weld. :D

Now I know this will offend a lot of people that have their own welders and have learned on their own but facts is facts. A lot of them home grown welds just may not be that sturdy.:D

Night classes for 7 weeks taking welding...taught me exactly what you say is true. It may "stick together"...but that dont mean its a "proper" weld!...:eek:
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #96  
Thanks Scully.:D

It's not that you can't do it on your own but the big factor is that you may not know what you don't know. :mad:
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #97  
That's how you learn, though .... My point is that if someone's worrying about spending $50 for a welder (I've been there) they may not be able to lay out the cash for lessons. Also, lessons aren't even an option everywhere, and IMO, that's not a good enough reason to not learn how to weld.
 
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river rat said:
That's how you learn, though .... My point is that if someone's worrying about spending $50 for a welder (I've been there) they may not be able to lay out the cash for lessons. Also, lessons aren't even an option everywhere, and IMO, that's not a good enough reason to not learn how to weld.
Thanks rat,
Money is one thing, but with small kids at home, I don't have the time to go to welding classes. Over the years, I have found that books and the internet can provide a wealth of kowledge on almost any subject. With research and practice, I am sure that I will be able to get the hang of it. It will just take patience and practice.
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #99  
kwolfe said:
Thanks rat,
Money is one thing, but with small kids at home, I don't have the time to go to welding classes. Over the years, I have found that books and the internet can provide a wealth of kowledge on almost any subject. With research and practice, I am sure that I will be able to get the hang of it. It will just take patience and practice.
Kwolfe I agree with you. I learned to weld by just welding. I am lucky where I work at I can go back and work with the welder all I want. I do not do welding that I think could be hazardous to others. I would not build a trailer for instance or weld something for someone else. I do small projects for myself. I build ramps for my trailer, weld some items around the house. I am sure you read the post from the person that makes signs. You can learn to weld on your own that is just a slower harder process.
 
   / Inexpensive Welding Solution????? #100  
kwolfe said:
Thanks rat,
Money is one thing, but with small kids at home, I don't have the time to go to welding classes. Over the years, I have found that books and the internet can provide a wealth of kowledge on almost any subject. With research and practice, I am sure that I will be able to get the hang of it. It will just take patience and practice.
Books and the internet can ASSIST in your learning...but if you think your going to LEARN welding from reading..your flat wrong! Its the HOURS of "doing it" and seeing all your screw-ups and having someone that DOES KNOW how to weld properly explaining to you what you didnt do right ( over and over again...lol) My class set me back $385 total ( $85 for the ***** book!!) and a "farmer buddy" of mine that "welds"..told me it was a waste of my $$. I should have just bought a stick welder and practiced instead...well...after getting done with class..I realize now Id have spent $300 in ELECTRICITY to learn what I have..SO FAR!

I read back to your posts in the beginning..and you state that your wleding will be "1/4" to maybe 1/2" thick stuff"...items you will use with your BX1500..well let me tell ya this. NO WELDER that you can buy NEW for the sort of $$ you have to spend....OR...any used welder in any condition that you would even have in the garage is going to weld up 3/8 to 1/2" material for you. Im not big on "cosmetics" but "junk is junk"...and thats not to say there arent SOME good used buys "out there"...but unless some old bird has croaked...why is he going to get rid of a perfectly good welder for "chicken feed" if its in good shape??? Far too many use the phrase "Someday I'll make a ??" and just let it sit!

Ive seen you say that with "kids at home" you dont have the time to take night clases. Who's watching those kids when your on the tractor???

IMHO..your between a rock and a hard spot..and buying some "junk" welder and attempting to "learn" by your lonesome..aint going to work..Im sorry to say. You need a welder that "can do the job" ( dont have to be brand new now) and you need someone who knows what they are doing ( welding wise) to assist you when uou are welding to get the hang of it.
 

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