Inovative anti-theft ideas?

[h2onut]

It is unfortunate that the generation that was victimized has been brain washed for the last couple decades that the mere sight of a gun in person might kill you. If the group targeted were mid 30's or older the outcome would have been different I think even if no one were armed.
If you talk to someone in their 20's or younger, there is tremendous fear about guns. Most of that generation has been indoctrinated that guns kill and have a mind of their own whether a law abiding person owns one or not. They can't understand why someone would even want to own something that goes around killing people.
A room full of 30 something or older folks probably would have had a better understanding about firearms and might have charged the shooter, realizing that a gun only fires when it has ammo and the trigger is pulled and that it only kills when it is aimed at a organ necessary for life.
Even the word Glock has become synoymous with innocent life taker assault weapon. Fear kills and keeps people defenseless.
We are about one generation away from a group voting to remove all of our firearms. They are already willing to voluntarily turn them in themselves.

 

[Steverino]

The Wheel CLUB

 

[Cop in Overalls]

I am not afraid of people who legally own guns. We as a society have become anti gun and we are now paying for it. Half of the criminals out there would not have the b***s to commit crimes if they thought their victims might be armed. Even if you outlaw guns, the bad guys are going to get them and make the rest of us easy prey. I might add that I just went to a cop funeral today, the second local guy in a year. As a society we need to start ot fight back against the bad guys. I hope I never have to go to another cop funeral. This all happened in the jurisdiction next to mine. By the way, as for tractor security----->300 Win Mag

 

[the_sandman_454]

The more I ponder it, the more I am infuriated by the mainstream media's agenda of pushing the "don't fight back" against criminals philosophy. For the longest time, the media has been trying to ram this idea down our throats. The very premise of that idea is pure idiocy. They want us to trust someone who is already committing a crime against us to not harm us? It seems pretty illogical to want to trust someone who isn't showing he or she is worthy of trust?

I think the media is partially responsible for the body count in this situation being so high. The people university age have grown up on nothing but this drivel about "just give them what they want, they'll go away". As such, nobody even thought to fight back in this VT incident. The way I look at a situation like that, were I placed in it, is "I'm dead already, so I might as well go down fighting"... That is the case whether the weapon I have at hand is my hand, a pencil, razor blade, knife, sword, pistol, a heavy book, or whatever else is quickly attainable. It might not succeed, but there's a good chance you're getting shot anyhow in a situation like that. No longer can people afford to be complacent, or delusional, thinking "surely they won't harm me if I don't resist"... With the current state of affairs we're in, the left's line of silly "they won't harm me" reasoning is the most sure way to be killed in a situation like that...

An attitude such as that is what is missing from society today. We've been taught it's ok to cower, that it's the right thing to do in fact. That has emboldened bad people to try and get away with things like this. This has got to change but I have no idea how to change it. I'm doing my part very soon by getting my CHL permit, as well as aquiring some pepper spray. What we need are some more classic western movie type ideals, the way attitudes used to be. I'm not talking about vigilantism, since self defense is not that, no matter what the media (and the left wing) tries to get people to believe. I am talking about an attitude of helping others, even at the cost of yourself. Old school values, what some used to refer to as "being a man". That's gone for the most part, except for a few of us holdouts from that philosophy.

Concealed carry weapons are not about vigilante justice, but rather about the inherent right of every human being to an adequate means of self defense in the face of an attack.

I'm sorry for posting again in such a short time, but this issue really burns me, especially when those in denial try to claim somehow it's the gun's fault. Gun control is like trying to make it harder to buy a car in an effort to help curb drunk driving. The exception being that we have no Constitutional protection to buy a car, however, we do for firearms. Prohibitions only effect those who are concerned with laws (which inherently means criminals still get the items that are prohibited). If you don't believe how ineffective prohibition is, look at the drug situation. Why are so many people using drugs, if they're prohibited? Criminals are already prohibited from having firearms. Since there is no way to predict the future and know who is going to commit a crime in the future, there is no way to prevent access of weapons to all criminals. This is the very reason gun control is hurting law abiding citizens, by removing their ability to defend themselves in a situation where a crime is committed not in the presence of law enforcement.


On a side note, I'm sorry to hear about your two local officers this year. Make sure to keep your head down and don't take any chances.

 

[N80]

Gun control cannot prevent events like the one at VT. This week a Japanese mayor was assassinated by a gang member with a handgun. In Japan, where there is pretty strict gun control. There have been school massacres in FRANCE! A number of years ago, I think in Japan, there was a school massacre where the weapon was a knife.

The issue is this: the type of person that steals your tractor at night or shoots fellow unarmed students is a coward. In general, they will strike only when they know that no one can resist them. The problem is that any nutbag anywhere can safely assume that he will meet no resistance as long as he has a gun. THAT is what allows this type of thing to happen. Not everyone needs to be packing a gun to prevent this type of thing. But if there was any chance that his peers would be as well armed as he is, the nutbag stays at home and uses his gun on himself. Even if he is ready to kill himself or be killed by the SWAT team, he will not go into a situation in which his intended victims will thwart his evil. There only needs to be a tangible chance of this. As it is, we are a society of victims always depending on someone else to protect us. The nutbag has nothing to fear from 'us'. There is nothing to deter him. But if he could reasonably expect there to be one person in every other classroom with a gun, he would be detered, crazy or not.

Same with tractor theft. If the thief thought that stealing someone elses hard earned stuff included a reasonable chance of farmer Brown legally dropping him with an old single barrel shotgun with buckshot....he wouldn't do it. As is, getting caught by the owner isn't even something he need worry about.

I remember a liquor store in the worst part of towm in Charleston, South Carolina back in the days when the best part of town was dnagerous at night. Every clerk behind the counter was openly packing a big revolver. They never got robbed.

 

[weldingisfun]

Wow! Sandman_454 you put it better than anyone I have heard/read in a long long time. In fact, the last time I heard anyone say what you have said and as eloquently as you, those words were spoken by Charleton Heston. Thank you.

Isn't it interesting that the most popular places for these mass shootings are the places where carrying a firearm, even with a CHL, is prohibited? Schools, post offices, churches, and government buildings. Do you think that these cowards, like the VA Tech "senior", know that? Do you think our legislators recognize it? Unfortunately, the answers to the questions are yes and no.

Will we never learn that our Founding Fathers were the wisest men ever to walk the ground we call home? God bless America.

 

[hudlow]

MY JD790 has a safety switch under the seat, you know if you leave the seat without putting the tractor in the proper condition it acts as a kill switch....?

I was thinking that maybe that switch could be modified somehow to use as an easy way to keep the tractor from being started.

hud

 

[N80]

It is extremely easy to hotwire a tractor.

 

[tommu56]

After reading in this forum I started leaving my pto in gear too I always left my range selector in gear so it will not start.

Jump a head 2 month I hop on put range selector in n still wont turn over start trouble shooting and I find pto in gear dugh!!! well that took me 1/2 hour. Now I hope it will slow down some one else if they were trying to start it the point that they give up.


tommu56

 

[KICK]

on gasoline engines that have a distributor, its pretty EZ to switch the coil wire around with one of the spark plug leads.

sucker will crank and backfire but only on on one cylinder.