iPad vs ?

[Fordman1981]

I've mentioned NOT liking the non removable storage on Ipad. Besides that storage being expensive here is another reason. On my S4 I mentioned I had a 48gb card filled with photos. I misspoke, it's a 64gb card with 48gb of data. When I first got the card, I put in the phone, hooked the phone to the usb and proceeded to move my photo folder. The little window came up estimating the time left, and I forget the exact time, but it wasn't hours, but days. Needless to say I stopped that. Put the micro SD card in the SD adapter, put in laptop and loaded the card that way. Still took a fair amount of time, forget exactly but < hour. The point is.....with non removable storage on an ipad how do I get my data/photos over from my laptop? To me removable storage has a hug plus here.

Never seen anything close to that long to move photos from my phone to the computer. I moved I think it was more than 2,000 photos a few weeks back took maybe 20 minutes if I remember correctly. I'll check later tonight I have over 1,200 on my phone now. I'll move them to laptop via usb and let you know.

 

[jcummins]

That would be good if the case. At the time I thought that is completely unreasonable....but why didn't have a clue. Either the phone...android...microsoft....dunno. But at the time it really stuck in my mind that move data at bus speeds in the the laptop is very different than via usb.

Just checked the number of photos/file in that folder 19,800+.

 

[Country Geek]

With nonremovable storage on the iPad you would move it by hooking your iPad up to the computer with the cable and moving it through iTunes. You might also be able to do it by not having iTunes and telling windows to open the folders on the iPad when it pops up and asks you what to do with the mass storage device you just attached.

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take the days you saw as your S4 claimed, that depends on how much faster the onboard storage in an ipad is than the S4 using the SD card (using an SD card on ANY device, phone or PC, is much slower than using onboard storage, which I suspect is one reason Apple devices don't use it). I suspect the iPad wouldn't take days, or even hours because I've done iTunes restores on my devices with tons of music and pictures in much less time.

btw I also suspect the S4 wouldn't have taken days either if you had let it run for a while. I've often seen these operations start off estimated to take a ridiculous amount of time that quickly decreases to a reasonable level as the operation goes on. I don't know what the algorithm is for estimating remaining time but on Windows it starts out notoriously conservative.

 

[MikePA]

That would be good if the case. At the time I thought that is completely unreasonable....but why didn't have a clue. Either the phone...android...microsoft....dunno. But at the time it really stuck in my mind that move data at bus speeds in the the laptop is very different than via usb.

Just checked the number of photos/file in that folder 19,800+.

You are not moving data off the microSD card at 'bus speeds'. The limiting factor is the speed of the microSD card, which is no where close to bus speed.

 

[s219]

The point is.....with non removable storage on an ipad how do I get my data/photos over from my laptop? To me removable storage has a hug plus here.

Get the card reader that plugs into the lightning port on the iPad. Put your card in the reader and import the files (of course you'll need to know what app or library you're importing them to, since there is no "file system" in iOS as far as the user knows). I have no idea how fast it is, but it would be faster than a USB sync transfer you were trying before.

Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader - Apple Store (U.S.)

 

[jcummins]

You are not moving data off the microSD card at 'bus speeds'. The limiting factor is the speed of the microSD card, which is no where close to bus speed.

Your correct bus speed isn't involved. But it wasn't the card either since with the micro card in the SD adapter plugged direct to the laptop it transferred at ok speed. So it was the phone or cable. I did let it run for awhile and it was obvious it wasn't the method to use. But you guys are correct a Samsung phone is not even close to an ipad on speed.

Is there a file manager under iOS so you can see the file structure, as with pc?

 

[jcummins]

BTW what is the preferred photo editor on an ipad? Although i haven't used much, I've been looking at PicArts. Up to this point it's been the laptop and photoshop.

 

[s219]

BTW what is the preferred photo editor on an ipad? Although i haven't used much, I've been looking at PicArts. Up to this point it's been the laptop and photoshop.

There are a bunch, but you could just use the Adobe Photoshop for iPad if you like that software.

 

[Fordman1981]

With nonremovable storage on the iPad you would move it by hooking your iPad up to the computer with the cable and moving it through iTunes. You might also be able to do it by not having iTunes and telling windows to open the folders on the iPad when it pops up and asks you what to do with the mass storage device you just attached.

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take the days you saw as your S4 claimed, that depends on how much faster the onboard storage in an ipad is than the S4 using the SD card (using an SD card on ANY device, phone or PC, is much slower than using onboard storage, which I suspect is one reason Apple devices don't use it). I suspect the iPad wouldn't take days, or even hours because I've done iTunes restores on my devices with tons of music and pictures in much less time.

btw I also suspect the S4 wouldn't have taken days either if you had let it run for a while. I've often seen these operations start off estimated to take a ridiculous amount of time that quickly decreases to a reasonable level as the operation goes on. I don't know what the algorithm is for estimating remaining time but on Windows it starts out notoriously conservative.

Well I just moved 4.9 Gig of photos and videos from my iPhone to iPhoto. I was way off. It took 3 minutes to transfer using the provided lighting to USB cable that comes with the iPhone. Hope this helps.

 

[MikePA]

BTW what is the preferred photo editor on an ipad? Although i haven't used much, I've been looking at PicArts. Up to this point it's been the laptop and photoshop.

There are a bunch, but you could just use the Adobe Photoshop for iPad if you like that software.

I'd copy the photos off a tablet and onto a laptop/desktop to edit them. No way I'd try and edit almost 20,000 photos on an iPad.

FileBrowser for an iOS file browser.

 

[jcummins]

I'd copy the photos off a tablet and onto a laptop/desktop to edit them. No way I'd try and edit almost 20,000 photos on an iPad.

All of those have already been edited, so it would be further photos, and the planned additional slides/photos I will be copying will add up to a fair number.....guessing 1000-2000.

Your comment makes me think....what I do is better PC based than ipad based. I wish I could find someone to fix the power problem, but one guy who does this, guaranteed via phone that it is was the power cord, and China has counterfeited them and you never know what you are truly buying, even if it's got the Samsung label. He said good luck on finding one. I may make another shot in the dark purchase and see if I can help it, perhaps the more expensive direct to Samsung route. Bad battery, I'll let slide. Let an ipad purchase slide until my phone upgrade becomes available in June next year, then consider going all Apple. I handled the iphone 6 plus couple days ago, and liked it. My daughter yesterday kind of hammered me to NOT buy an android tablet, she being solidly in the Apple camp.

I currently have 60gb in USE on the S4 phone. I checked and have about 20-25GB on laptop that I would add to that to get all of my user data off the laptop. So, I'm also in the maximum price on storage of 128gb on an ipad...remember icloud won't work for me, internet usage $$$ issue.

 

[Soundguy]

On top of all your points iOS is easier to develop for. I remember seeing an article about the percentage of apps that are made for iOS and ported to android. While I don't remember the exact percentage it was a staggering amount. That is one of the reasons a lot of the android apps run slower and have more bugs than their iOS versions.

aren't ios and android both essentiall unix based?

 

[Soundguy]

Your correct bus speed isn't involved. But it wasn't the card either since with the micro card in the SD adapter plugged direct to the laptop it transferred at ok speed. So it was the phone or cable. I did let it run for awhile and it was obvious it wasn't the method to use. But you guys are correct a Samsung phone is not even close to an ipad on speed.

Is there a file manager under iOS so you can see the file structure, as with pc?

what are the 2 using as a processor? not everything is equal. for instance, compairing nokia implementation of snapdragon vs surface implementaion of tegra you see differences is speed with bonus going to nokia, till it gets to video stuff and the tegra wins out.

 

[Fordman1981]

aren't ios and android both essentiall unix based?

It's the tools designed for making the apps. Apple has Xcode where android you have to use a generic tool like eclipse.

Android is Linux based which is a freeware clone of Unix.

 

[Soundguy]

unix, linux... it's all 'ix' based...

 

[MikePA]

aren't ios and android both essentiall unix based?

Yes, both are *nix based.

Linux ~ AIX ~ Solaris ~ SUSE ad infinitum

 

[/pine]

unix, linux... it's all 'ix' based...

yes...but FWIW although there are free versions of both...UNIX is proprietary where Linux is open source...
IIRC...iOS is derived from BSD and android was GNU before Google acquired development rights...

 

[Soundguy]

yes...but FWIW although there are free versions of both...UNIX is proprietary where Linux is open source...
IIRC...iOS is derived from BSD and android was GNU before Google acquired development rights...

i said 'based' ie derieved from.

 

[Soundguy]

yes...but FWIW although there are free versions of both...UNIX is proprietary where Linux is open source...
IIRC...iOS is derived from BSD and android was GNU before Google acquired development rights...

i said 'based' ie derieved from.

 

[/pine]

i said 'based' ie derieved from.

there was no argument!
As a note I cited (for what it was worth) is that with proprietary distributions there is no access to the kernel source code...where Google openly releases their source code...