Is a dually needed?

[Depmandog]

... I'll just figure out which one I like the best and then see if they will bite at 800 over dealer invoice(I always liked that old term "tissue"), less all incentives. I bet there's four grand of markup on that 66k truck. what would you think? I'm going to do the KBB route anyway once I know what to focus on.

I don't want to restart the how much to pay for a new truck thread we had recently.....but IMHO, $800 over invoice is $700 - $750 too much....regardless of the incentives they are offering.

If you can't get it bought for that in Philly, then when you fly into KC to head to Smith Center KS...I will personally pick you up at the airport and we WILL get your truck bought here! Uh, one caveat, has to be Ford or Chevy Never bought a Dodge truck.

 

[Buppies]

Why don't you try try Crossroads Ford in Raleigh,NC Jack McNair. He can price all three and is very competitive. He is fleet sales man so no crap just price and quick in and out. Just a thought

 

[Buppies]

Vernon Automotive Group in Texas price competitive and web site shows vehicle with pictures and pricing, good luck

 

[newbury]

Drew -
Since you seem locked into new and plan to move you should definitely look for a "Barlow's" type dealer.

When I bought my VW JSW TDI I ended up buying from a guy up near Philly, a decent drive from DC. I think a lot of dealers are getting used to people who move to their area with vehicles bought elsewhere. As long as you don't test drive a lot at the site you choose to get repairs but buy elsewhere.

I test drove my TDI at the closest dealer - who has about the worst reputation for repair/warranty work so I KNOW I won't be going back.

 

[daugen]

thanks for the ideas guys. I've got plenty of time and if I see a nice used truck locally, I will hop right on that possibly.
While I follow "pricing" discussions closely, I honestly have been out of the loop for fifteen plus years, buying everything at GM employee discount, which usually ran about two or three thousand under dealer list. so yeah, if there's that much padding "under" the line, pricing closer to the line makes sense.

 

[buickanddeere]

Dually is about useless in mud or snow. The wide backside uses a parking space line to line and over. If your driving is on the highway with a top heavy 5th wheel trailer, then sure get a dually.

 

[Green Power]

Try Woodhouse, they do all of the big 3 and then some. https://www.woodhouse.com/

 

[daugen]

Dually is about useless in mud or snow.

now that's an issue where I'd be stepping back in capability...my current Suburban 2500 with Firestone AT's is just about unstoppable in snow.
so I guess my other vehicle, a car, needs awd....hmmmm.

I looked up Woodhouse, something like 19 different long bed drw F350 diesels in stock or incoming. Amazing.

 

[nc redneck]

A lot of these posters dont understand pulling a 40 foot 16,000 lb 5th wheel a long distance. Hit a 20 mph headwind and you might be lucky to get 200 miles from factory tank. I like others did not want to eat up my bed space with extra fuel tank.
I started with transfer flow 48 gallon replacement OEM tank. But after 2 runs to Orlando from NC trying to back in campsite with low fuel warning on. I knew the headaches were not worth the cost of a few hundred bucks for in bed tank.
Again hit the campgrounds look at what serious ( big 5th wheelers ) are pulling with ( also look at there license plate and what state they are from long pull or short. ) Brand and extra fuel tanks.
Guys who are 1000 miles aweigh from home get it, and have probably pulled through the mountains, take there advice. Not sure what brand you will end up with, but my advice would be. GM, Ford and Dodge in that order. Remember you are towing your home, when truck breaks down your home is going tow yard also.
Good Luck
It will be fun regardless of what type truck you buy. I do believe a 30K tow rating tells you who is full of BS. They all break down just some sooner than others.
Scott

 

[Fordman1981]

A lot of these posters dont understand pulling a 40 foot 16,000 lb 5th wheel a long distance. Hit a 20 mph headwind and you might be lucky to get 200 miles from factory tank. I like others did not want to eat up my bed space with extra fuel tank. I started with transfer flow 48 gallon replacement OEM tank. But after 2 runs to Orlando from NC trying to back in campsite with low fuel warning on. I knew the headaches were not worth the cost of a few hundred bucks for in bed tank. Again hit the campgrounds look at what serious ( big 5th wheelers ) are pulling with ( also look at there license plate and what state they are from long pull or short. ) Brand and extra fuel tanks. Guys who are 1000 miles aweigh from home get it, and have probably pulled through the mountains, take there advice. Not sure what brand you will end up with, but my advice would be. GM, Ford and Dodge in that order. Remember you are towing your home, when truck breaks down your home is going tow yard also. Good Luck It will be fun regardless of what type truck you buy. I do believe a 30K tow rating tells you who is full of BS. They all break down just some sooner than others. Scott

Again I think someone is butt hurt that chevy has the lowest tow rating. Ram completely redesigned their truck to obtain their 30,000 lb tow rating. Ford upped their rating for 2015 by minor changes. So yeah listen to NC dipstick and buy the most outdated least capable truck.