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N80
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Very funny. Really like the 2cellos.
Is Rock and Roll dead. Part 2.
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Very funny. Really like the 2cellos.
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When I'm on the road I always search for college stations. There are still some out there in this region. You get some weird stuff but some good stuff too. I enjoy the anticipation of what might be next. You don't get that with most radio stations these days.
At my office I work in a corner with three nurses. The radio reception in the building is terrible so they can only get one channel to come in clear but they like it. It is the big local pop channel. I'm not knocking the pop music; it is predictable but sometimes catchy. But in the last year I don't think that station has played a single new song and the songs they do play get played at least three, sometimes four times during the work day. I don't complain because the nurses seem to like it....but it is getting to be like Chinese water torture. Even a great song played over and over gets ruined.
vvanders
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Most of the FM radio stations these days are owned by a few companies. Back before the Pandora/Spotify/etc days Shoutcast used to be much a nice source of independent stations. Lots of interesting and curated genres that you won't hear on US airwaves.
I got pretty big into the Swedish/Finnish/Euro metal scene that way, lots of good stuff there that you won't here over here.
I got pretty big into the Swedish/Finnish/Euro metal scene that way, lots of good stuff there that you won't here over here.
flyerdan
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If you have a computer with sound and speakers, you can get an inexpensive FM transmitter that rebroadcasts on an unused frequency and have all kinds of talk and music. I run it all day on iHeart for talk hosts that we don't get here, and Soma FM for the music; my bookmark there is for Boot Liquor. They have an extensive playlist that you'll notice if you listen often for days, but don't have the heavy rotation where you hear the same song three times before lunch.
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The reference is from an interview he (Anderson) gave in regard to being in the same (Island Records) studio at the same time as LZ was recording their (untitled) fourth album...LZ was relegated to the smaller "studio B"...
The reference is to some dialog Anderson had with either Plant or Page about the quality of their lyrics.
Popularity (record sales etc.) has never been a viable indicator of true talent or artistic genius.
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Zep 4 was recorded in a studio in an old house.
Again, certainly Anderson's opinion is as credible as anyone else's....but hardly more so.
Agreed. That is not what I was saying. My point is that when a genre gets popular the antennae of the music industry go up and they actively search for talent within that genre. That fertilizes the ground for that genre and gives a ready media outlet for more bands within that genre.
Edit: If Anderson was referring to the lyrics of Stairway to Heaven, then he is correct for that particular song. The lyrics are nonsense. Plant says he wrote them in about 15 minutes and that they have little meaning at all.
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PJSprog
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I've never believed rock was "dead," but I certainly used to think it was dying a slow and painful death. That opinion was colored by two things: 1) my own inflexible opinion about what I accepted as "good" rock music, and 2) the over-commercialization of broadcast music radio.
That opinion was shattered by a friend of a guitar player I played with back in the early 2000s. He had literally an apartment full of music from bands I'd never heard of from all over the world. He'd go to work every day, then go home, get high, and start searching the internet for new stuff. He must have had 10s of thousands of CDs, in custom built shelves (built by my guitar player's father) that were floor-to-ceiling along every wall. I had no idea so much new music existed.
That experience at his place taught me two important things: 1) There is a whole world of music out there that local terrestrial radio stations are simply not exposing you to, mostly because a bunch of guys in suits have some data that suggests it may not sell as much ad time to play, and 2) the new frontier of music is not radio, but rather satellite and internet.
I love progressive rock. Rush, Yes, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, ... you name it. All good to me. I long lamented the lack of any newer prog music. I thought Dream Theater only had one album, until I found out they actually had (at that time) about half a dozen, each getting better and better. And, the number of bands out there in that particular genre is staggering.
Regardless of what type of rock you like, there's a very good chance that there are a ton of bands out there making music you'll like. Rock isn't dead by any means. It's just evolved and moved.
That opinion was shattered by a friend of a guitar player I played with back in the early 2000s. He had literally an apartment full of music from bands I'd never heard of from all over the world. He'd go to work every day, then go home, get high, and start searching the internet for new stuff. He must have had 10s of thousands of CDs, in custom built shelves (built by my guitar player's father) that were floor-to-ceiling along every wall. I had no idea so much new music existed.
That experience at his place taught me two important things: 1) There is a whole world of music out there that local terrestrial radio stations are simply not exposing you to, mostly because a bunch of guys in suits have some data that suggests it may not sell as much ad time to play, and 2) the new frontier of music is not radio, but rather satellite and internet.
I love progressive rock. Rush, Yes, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, ... you name it. All good to me. I long lamented the lack of any newer prog music. I thought Dream Theater only had one album, until I found out they actually had (at that time) about half a dozen, each getting better and better. And, the number of bands out there in that particular genre is staggering.
Regardless of what type of rock you like, there's a very good chance that there are a ton of bands out there making music you'll like. Rock isn't dead by any means. It's just evolved and moved.
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Well, radio remains the media type that reaches the most Americans. It is slipping but still on top and for the current popular forms of music it is still the primary media for introduction and marketing of new music. So yes, times have changed, but radio is still up there. And again, we can say rock isn't dead all we want, but its rung on the evolutionary scale is much lower than it ever was. Blues and classical music aren't 'dead' either. But like rock, they do not represent the vibrant markets they once did. So I'm happy to accept rock as being 'mostly dead'. And I've spent a fair amount of time searching for good new music. For me it is not worth the time and the pain of listening to so much stuff that is either derivative or simply awful. And when you consider rock from the 60's-80's and consider the advantages that the internet has brought it really puts things into perspective when you consider searching 10 hours a day to find some decent new music.
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Led Zeppelin IV - Wikipedia
I never said anything about StH...but it was typical of their work...IMO...
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The bulk of IV was recorded at Headly Grange, and maybe a few other locations. Not sure what the implication of Tull getting the larger studio at Island is?? There is Zeppelin and then there is Tull.
That's just the problem. Most of Led Zep is _nothing_ like Stairway. It is considered by most fans AND the particularly the band members not their defining sound. This is often the case with any band's biggest hit. And more telling is the fact that they did not attempt to recreate Stairway as so many bands do with their big hits. The truth about Zep is that their sound varied tremendously from album to album. Each album is so different from the previous one.
If you are a rock fan, if you like blues, and you have not dug deep into Zep's discography it is worthwhile. You will find very little else that sounds like Stairway....even on the IV album. Start with the first album. Raw, hardcore blues rock.
That's just the problem. Most of Led Zep is _nothing_ like Stairway. It is considered by most fans AND the particularly the band members not their defining sound. This is often the case with any band's biggest hit. And more telling is the fact that they did not attempt to recreate Stairway as so many bands do with their big hits. The truth about Zep is that their sound varied tremendously from album to album. Each album is so different from the previous one.
If you are a rock fan, if you like blues, and you have not dug deep into Zep's discography it is worthwhile. You will find very little else that sounds like Stairway....even on the IV album. Start with the first album. Raw, hardcore blues rock.