isappointed with Middle Buster

   / isappointed with Middle Buster #21  
Alan,
Another thing you can try if your ground is hard is to drop one ripper on your boxblade down as low as it will go. This will soften things up and you can then use the middle buster.
Grant
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #22  
Your welcome and yeah, you're looking at it correctly. Sorry - I don't like to include more than what is necessary - which isn't always obvious to the person taking the picture.

Actually, mine is a B7500 but I don't expect there to be much of a difference in the 3ph arm set up.

Paul
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #23  
Alan, if you'd like another way using a standard rear blade, let me know. Angling one at about a 45 degree or sharper angle, and then adjusting the right side 3-pt arm to get the forward side of the blade way down, can do some serious digging after multiple passes. The advantage comes from one side of the tractor's wheels riding in the trench while making additional passes. I've gone about 16 inches deep this way. The tractor get to leaning quite a bit, but it works. Let me know if you'd like to try a different route.
 
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#24  
djradz, I don't currently own a rear blade, but probably will get one at some point. Maybe I should have gotten one instead of the middle buster. We'll see next weekend.
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #25  
Jim,
Years ago we used the "sub-soiler" to break the crust or pan of the soil so that water would penetrate to get more water in the ground and less running off. I have also used a single ripper (which is much the same as a sub-soiler and is used for breaking up compacted soil so a pan or grader could do it’s job more effectively), mounted on a large dozier, to precede a cable layer to make it easier for the cable layer in rocky and heavy clay terrain.
The middle busters that I am familiar with are used to plow the middle of a row of a crop to throw soil on the base of the plants and to loosen the soil. This is what I have always heard called “hilling” … it’s been a very long time since I have been involved in row crops.
Of coarse, these implements can be used for many purposes as is obvious by the many uses seen on TBN …
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #26  
Alan
I have attached a section from the 27-2910 manual that explains what Paul shows in his picture. Its on page 36 of the operation section of the manual. Hope your Middle Buster doesn’t go to deep. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #27  
The bottom of that page in the manual says "attached to B hole for higher lifting height". That's backwards! Attaching to the B hole will allow the arm to go lower and it won't lift as high as it will if it's attached to the A hole.
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #28  
I was just thinking the same thing. More depth, less height, less lifting capacity.

Bad information is worse than not having any at all. A glaring mistake like that should have been picked up. I hope there are not more, less obvious errors in that manual.
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #29  
If u can try moving the link to
B hole it should go higher and lower
but w/ less lifting cap.
The B hole swings on a smaller radius.
 
   / isappointed with Middle Buster #30  
I think you're not allowing for the fact that when you move the lift arms closer to the tractor, you're actually going to have to push the 3ph arms down quite a ways in order to connect then to the "B" holes.

I'm not an engineer, but I think it has something to do with the angle between the lift arm and the arm that is actually hooked to the hydraulics. If anyone can help with the terminology, feel free to jump in anytime.

Check out my very sad drawing.
 

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