Go google McD's and coffee. You can read it for yourself.
Right. If it comes up on google, its true.
The jury award which was reduced only amounted to a few days worth of coffee sales for McDs.
So what does that mean? How does McDonald's income relate to the damages awarded? Obviously, that's a rhetorical question. The general store on the corner owned by Ma and Pa Kettle could have served that woman hot boiling lye and none of the plianitiffs attorneys would have returned her phone calls.
Remember the coffee was so hot it caused third degree burns.
Remember, burn damage is related to temperature AND exposure time. Multiple other factors are involved too. But, a jury of monkeys can't be bothered with that type of data.
Most coffee at retails outlets is around 140-150ish degrees.
Hogwash.
McD was over 180 which does not sound like a big difference but it is. I could spill my coffee right out of my coffee pot and I would not get third degree burns.
Prove it.
Regardless. You're most likely wrong (I can't prove it either). But if you dump 150 degree coffee, which you have so proudly hailed as somehow 'safe' it will almost instantly cause 2nd degree burns and if left long enough, especially bound up in cheap polyester panties, it could cause worse. But the point is: SO WHAT?!?!? If 150 degree coffee can cause second degree burns, and it surely can, how much is a lap full of 2nd degree burns worth to a jury spending someone else's money?
So, Dan, are second degree burns okay? Yes? Why? Are you telling me its okay for big corporations to hand out cups full of liquids that they KNOW can cause 2nd degree burns? Really? How cold and callous you must be to expect the average citizen not to dump 2nd degree burn-causing liquid in his lap. You must be on Burger Kings payroll. Or maybe you would decide that 150 might just be too hot. Where would you put the cutoff? Don't they tell us to set our water heaters to 120 or less. I know tons of coffee drinkers who would spit out bath-tub hot coffee.
So you see where this hott-ER logic gets you. No where. It all comes back to the fact that if you dump a hot liquid in your lap its going to hurt you. Period.
McDs knew their coffee was served at temps that caused injury. They knew it.
Hogwash again. Coffee at 110 degrees will cause injury if you use it as an enema or an eye wash. Why is McDonalds liable for people doing stupid things with a hot liquids.
They had been sued. They did not care. They just wanted to save money.
No one has adequately explained how hot coffee saves money. The theory that it discourages free refills is moronic. If coffee is too hot to drink, customers won't come back. If they do, then the temp of the coffee has been proven by market forces to be just fine. So lets put that hogwash behind us. If it is less then 212 in my book then its just hot coffee. nothing more, nothing less.
If you want defend a large company selling a product that they knew hurt customers so they can make money, go right a head.
I don't have to defend anyone. I don't think any corporation, company or individual should be liable for the endless forms of creative stupidity that Americans use to hurt themselves.
If she had purchased an "Ice Cold Coca Cola" and it turned out to be boiling coffee then that's one thing. That did not happen. She purchased HOT coffee, placed it in her LAP, while operating a motor vehicle on public roads. The outcome of those actions was predictable. If the coffee had been 150 degrees the outcome would have not been measurably different.
I got burned with this coffee in the time frame of the lady's injury.
I bet you felt stupid!!
But hey, can I borrow a million dollars? What, you didn't get yours? Now I bet you feel REAL stupid.
McDs now has coffee had drinkable temps.
"Drinkable" is your term. I know people who drink coffee out of cups too hot for me to hold that would contest your use of the term 'drinkable'.
The penalty, a couple day of McDs coffee sales, was eventually knocked down.
Back to the deep pockets huh?
Only a few people really know how much she was paid for eight days in the hospital because it was eventually settled out of court.
McDonalds offered to pay hospital bills, lost time and wages and damages. She turned it down. She did something that EVERYONE knows is risky, stupid and with predictably bad outcomes, hurt HERSELF and was then offerred that amount and she turned it down. That's all the proof you need to let you know that this case was an example of nothing more than absolute greed and ambulance chasing.
Psssst. OJ was innocent.
Later,
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