Jacking up a Tractor Question

[Muskoka Bill]

Hello I am new to tractors, I just purchased a Kioti CX2510 and I am thinking of grooving the R4 tires for better winter traction. (I can't use chains or studs on the paved driveway). I would like to be able to jack up each tire separately when I come to groove that tire. Where do I put my 2 1/2 ton jack? There is no mention of jacking in the manual. Can I put the jack and jack stands under the front or rear axle casing or will I damage the casing? Your input is welcome. Thanks Bill

 

[4570Man]

I would just grove the top of the tires and move it forward a few times.

 

[Rebeldad1]

Is grooving a R4 tire really going to do anything?

Try adding more weight

 

[Muskoka Bill]

There are lots of discussion on TB about grooving and the consensus I arrived at is that it will help with improved traction on snow but not much better on ice. I purchased a MK Martin Meteor 60" pull type snowblower (500 lbs) and I have a hill in the driveway so I may need the improved traction in the rear and front tires. I have the tire grooving iron and blades so it is just my time. But getting back to the original question ?

 

[5030]

On my M9's I lift both front wheels with a 10 ton hydraulic jack centered under the front axle pivot casting and the back under the drawbar housing. Lift blocks added of course.

No clue about 'grooving tires' I run R1 radial ag tires.

 

[Avenger]

I jack up my tractor when I install the chains before winter. I can life the entire back end of the tractor by lifting on the drawbar. Then put jack stands under each axle.
This video shows how I do it.

at about the 3 minute mark.

 

[RjCorazza]

I have used a 3 ton floor jack dead center for both the front and rear, then lowered onto jack stands. I would recommend just rolling the tractor as you groove though.... you will want to take a break every quarter tire or so anyway.
Grooving R4 tires makes a significant difference in snow traction.

 

[hube2]

I have tried jacking up just one side of my tractor and found it impossible to do using anything on the tractor solid enough to place the jack. It's narrow enough that both sides go up, just a little unevenly.

If you do have one side off the ground and the other on the ground you won't be able to turn the wheel anyway, both wheels need to be off the ground to turn them manually, unless yours works differently than mine. I also would not want to have my tractor up in the are for an extended period of time, sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

I would either take the wheel off and have that side on a jack stand so that I knew it was stable or do what other suggest and move the tractor.

 

[Muskoka Bill]

If you do have one side off the ground and the other on the ground you won't be able to turn the wheel anyway, both wheels need to be off the ground to turn them manually, unless yours works differently than mine. I also would not want to have my tractor up in the are for an extended period of time, sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

You have made a good point that I never thought about in that both wheels probably have to be off the ground to be able to turn a wheel manually. I will just move the tractor rather then try jacking it up when I start the tire grooving job.
Thanks to all who shared their knowledge with a beginner !!

 

[WranglerX]

Not so unless you do not have a differential, which many tractors do....

Just jack it up, put a pair of jack stands under it and be happy....

 

[bdog]

Hello I am new to tractors, I just purchased a Kioti CX2510 and I am thinking of grooving the R4 tires for better winter traction. (I can't use chains or studs on the paved driveway). I would like to be able to jack up each tire separately when I come to groove that tire. Where do I put my 2 1/2 ton jack? There is no mention of jacking in the manual. Can I put the jack and jack stands under the front or rear axle casing or will I damage the casing? Your input is welcome. Thanks Bill

Do you have a FEL? Not sure if they are all like this but on my Kioti the frame for the loader goes all the way to the rear axle and is thick. I place my jacks for the rear centered under the axle and on the loader frame. I can lift each side independentl. In fact my tractor has been sitting on a jack for over a week as I have been working on adding some things to it.

 

[TractorTYMe]

I used FEL to lift front tires, rear tires I let the three point hitch implement down all the way and used a 4ton hydraulic jack to lift rear wheels off the ground. Grooved tires work GREAT on snow

 

[hosspuller]

Be careful jacking the rear in the center. Unless you have a FEL on the ground, the tractor can tilt over on the front axle pivot. The other option is to wedge the front axle solid to the frame.

 

[5030]

Never had that issue with mine. Centering the jack on the center of the drawbar centers the balance just fine. My units weigh over 9,000 pounds each. been doing that for years btw.

What the drawbar is for as it's the strongest point in the back end.

 

[v908]

Not sure why you need to jack it up at all. Can't you do the top third of each tire, then roll it forward a bit, do the next section, then roll forward to complete the job? Doesn't seem like jacking it up is needed at all.

 

[TractorTYMe]

Not sure why you need to jack it up at all. Can't you do the top third of each tire, then roll it forward a bit, do the next section, then roll forward to complete the job? Doesn't seem like jacking it up is needed at all.

It is nice to have the tires off the floor, I did my tractor in three hours all 4 wheels, with beer breaks in between.

 

[shooterdon]

I jack up my tractor when I install the chains before winter. I can life the entire back end of the tractor by lifting on the drawbar. Then put jack stands under each axle.
This video shows how I do it.

at about the 3 minute mark.

Thanks for posting that.

I am 70 YO and will never put chains on. If a young strong guy like you needs that much time and effort, it is not a long term solution. And I have the oversize turfs on my LS so there is even less clearance!!!

My thoughts are to stud the tires. It will take a lot time but that I have. My tractor does not operate on pavement so studs should be OK.

 

[hube2]

I have never jacked up a tractor to put on chains. I looked for the video that was posted here on TBN but could not find it.

I tie a strong cord between the sides of the chain and hook that over the lugs on the tire then I just drive forward and let the tractor pull them on.

Found an older post with pictures Mounting tire chains

The whole job, both wheels takes 10 minutes or less and that's getting off my tractor 4 times to make sure the chains on both wheels stay straight and that they are going on tight.

 

[fruitcakesa]

I have never jacked up a tractor to put on chains. I looked for the video that was posted here on TBN but could not find it.

I tie a strong cord between the sides of the chain and hook that over the lugs on the tire then I just drive forward and let the tractor pull them on.

Found an older post with pictures Mounting tire chains

The whole job, both wheels takes 10 minutes or less and that's getting off my tractor 4 times to make sure the chains on both wheels stay straight and that they are going on tight.

This is the way to do it, no heavy lifting

 

[davrenn]

To those who have done it ... noticed any traction difference with grooves in sand ? ... mud ?