JD Exhaust

candmgam · Nov 1, 2004

Recently took delivery of a new 4410 - very happy with it to date, done around 40 hours of general landscaping, clearing etc., and just took delivery of a 5'6" slasher - 3PH mounted, PTO driven rough mower - to get my 10 acres under control before local bush-fire season. One question which I would appreciate comments on - exhaust fumes. I'm sure that there must be a good reason for the exhaust outlet to be under the LHS of the engine, but it sure seems that I breathe in a lot of fumes - raspy throat after a few hours work, and I guess that there would be longer term concerns. Does anyone else have this concern? I can't find any discussion on this. Any idea if JD make a 'high outlet' exhaust extension kit? Wearing a mask would probably help, but it can get uncomfortable during summer. Thanks for any advice/comments

stuart · Nov 1, 2004

I have a 4300 and they make a kit for an exhaust to go overhead. My guess is that they make one for yours also.

rockyridgefarm · Nov 1, 2004

I haven't heard of anyone having the same issues. Makes me wonder if there is something "special" in your diesel fuel. We sure have some "interesting" mixes in our gasoline...

Are there choices in fuel, like onroad and offroad? Are you running additives?

Maybe Deere's diesel fuel conditioner would help.

There definately is an overhead stack available for yours. Check with your dealer, but if it isn't available there, let us know, we can certainly figure out how to get you one...

BGL990 · Nov 1, 2004

I have a new(ish) 990 with the under-hood exhaust and I noticed the same thing right away. The exhaust rises and you tend to drive right into the fumes. Worse is when you have to do something like shovel stuff into the loader bucket, or hook chains to the bucket hooks, or whatever. Exhaust blows right at you. I also notice that my exhaust seems more acrid and burns my eyes and throat more than other diesels. Don't know if it is just the fuel I'm using or the engine design (I've heard other people say that different engines tend to smell different, even with the same fuel). In any event, I wish they would have left the upright exhaust stack on the 990.

JDNineNinety · Nov 1, 2004

I have a 2001 990 with the high exaust. It carries the fumes up and over and I never smell them at all.

RoyJackson · Nov 2, 2004

"I have a 2001 990 with the high exaust. It carries the fumes up and over and I never smell them at all. "

My 2003 790 also has the vertical exhaust. I've looked at the newer x90 machines...I prefer the vertical exhaust...for one thing, it pushes the branches out of the way!

This looks like an easy conversion for those of you who'd rather have the stack...but you'd need to buy the side panel with the cutout for the stack. The exhaust pipe probably isn't too expensive, buut I bet that side panel is.

JD2210MAN · Nov 2, 2004

My 2210 has the lower exaust also.
As BGL990 said, I too get blown in the face when I do any work in front of the tractor (IE.. Shovel dirt, hook chains or anything involving being in front of the tractor). /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I have often thought about putting some sort of stack on it but I rarely smell any when I am driving. There are exceptions when I am moving a HEAVY load up a hill. My lungs have become use to it. I know if I still smoked, I would be a lot more sensitive to the smell!

bczoom · Nov 2, 2004

I'm with JDNineNinty and RoyJackson.

I got both types when I got mine (the lower was the original install) but it wasn't long before I went with the stack. Huge difference.

nello · Nov 2, 2004

4210-I have all the same problems,eyes,heat and fumes.

Dutch445 · Nov 2, 2004

Here is a picture of the Deere kit #LVB25106, which has a list price of $91. The info does not specify anything about modifying side panels, but that looks like it will be needed.
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Dutch445 · Nov 2, 2004

Further investigation finds the instructions for the kit, and they do include modifying the hood/side panel.

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dmp437 · Nov 2, 2004

Anyone with a 4310 got the high exhaust? How high from the ground is it? I've got a barn with low clearance (tillage door) and am very interested in "going high".

Deere.com gives a price of $94 for LVB25106, lasted modified Sept. 14.

joecdeere · Nov 2, 2004

I've seen the instruction sheet for these, a template is included for cutting the required notch in the panel.

JDNineNinety · Nov 2, 2004

I would think that a pair of shears and a little judicious cutting would solve the panel opening. Just be careful and you could make it look like the original. If you want the dimensions of the opening in the panel I would be happy to measure mine and send you a private message or you could email me.

BrandonEvans · Nov 2, 2004

Just a BTDT......Major downfall of the vertical exhaust....low hanging tree limbs. Stop paying attention for just a few seconds and you can have a very bad day.

dmp437 · Nov 3, 2004

The measurement I'm looking for is from the ground to the top of the stack. What's the vertical clearance for buildings and tree limbs?

The inside of the 4310 hood already has a couple of vertical molded in ribs for renforcement where the slot will be cut in addition to a relief in the left side panel to allow for clearance.

Westonium · Nov 3, 2004

I guess I joined at the right time. This was one of my big questions. I have a 4310 430FEL w/mowing and scraping attachments, but doing several hours of FEL made me a little loopy. I was working in the dark and the air was pretty still. It was a large outisde area, but evidently 2 hours of driving right through the fumes and moveing about 16yds of 1.5" rock = bad health conditions.

I'm ordering the part asap.

JDNineNinety · Nov 3, 2004

I'm going to the farm tomorrow and will measure the stack and send you a private message then.

bczoom · Nov 3, 2004

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I mentioned earlier that my tractor is a bit smaller (JD-770) so not sure if these measurements will help but here's what I've got. 78" from ground to top of ROPS, 73" from ground to top of vertical exhaust.

B8FISH · Nov 3, 2004

I believe that on a 2210 you can use a copper tubing elbow (can't remember if it is 3/4 or 1 inch exhaust) to help get the fumes a little further away from the tractor--a 45 degree bend will help move the exhaust and shouldn't strain the engine any (I think--but will look for other expert opinions)