Wow! that sounds like a pretty decent price. I paid just over 15K for my 4010 with 60" MMM 410 FLE ballast box and Imatch. 62" MMM, is that a new product or was that not an option for my 4010, plus it is cheaper at 1499. If I remember correctly that is almost a $500 differance. I wonder if the construction is lighter weight or the same. Well just like any new product line, there will be lots of questions. I hope the backhoe will fit on my 4010 not that I really need one, but I am sure I could make up enough projects that it would eventually pay for itself. I still have lots of shed room even with the boat and utility trailer in for winter.
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JD maybe doing the same with the 2210 as they did with the 4010. Dealers who had
sold orders received their machine, while dealers ordering for stock waited. I know
of one dealer who didn receive a 4010 for stock till the end of summer while another
with pre-sold orders moved about six of em... Called around found one dealer with
two 2210, both are sold. One will be delivered Wednesday an the other is waiting for
a snow blower...
In my search for a 2210 I ran across a new 4100 gear, dealer wants to move it.
Decision, decision, do I want to take advantage of a good price on the 4100 gear
drive with cast iron trans-axle an steal body or order a 2210 with HST...
sold orders received their machine, while dealers ordering for stock waited. I know
of one dealer who didn receive a 4010 for stock till the end of summer while another
with pre-sold orders moved about six of em... Called around found one dealer with
two 2210, both are sold. One will be delivered Wednesday an the other is waiting for
a snow blower...
In my search for a 2210 I ran across a new 4100 gear, dealer wants to move it.
Decision, decision, do I want to take advantage of a good price on the 4100 gear
drive with cast iron trans-axle an steal body or order a 2210 with HST...
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Gunfighter, if the 4100 is a good deal, buy it. That's what I have a 4100 gear. It has never dissapointed me. But you have to not mind shifting gears. For my use the gear tractor suits me just fine. The 4100 is a great small acreage small-frame tractor that is capable of much more than the subcompacts.
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If they are going to have a BH for the 2210 I hope they plan on coming up for one on the 4110, it sure would be nice!
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Glad I didn't have a Check book with me, it was love at first sight...
Here's a few spec on the JD 2210:
Engine 61.0 Cu In.
Engine hp 23.
PTO hp 17.7
Rated at 3,000 RPM
2 Range HST, 0-4.3 mph L / 0-8.4 mph H
Tire Size 26x12.00-12 R / 18x8.5-10 F.
Wheelbase 57.1 in.
Overall Lenght w 3pt 104.3
Overall Width 47.2
Height top of hood 41.8
Height top of ROP 77.6
Weight 1400 lb
3 pt lift capacity 24 in behind link arms 701 lb
Here's a few spec on the JD 2210:
Engine 61.0 Cu In.
Engine hp 23.
PTO hp 17.7
Rated at 3,000 RPM
2 Range HST, 0-4.3 mph L / 0-8.4 mph H
Tire Size 26x12.00-12 R / 18x8.5-10 F.
Wheelbase 57.1 in.
Overall Lenght w 3pt 104.3
Overall Width 47.2
Height top of hood 41.8
Height top of ROP 77.6
Weight 1400 lb
3 pt lift capacity 24 in behind link arms 701 lb
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<font color=green>Glad I didn't have a Check book with me, it was love at first sight...</font color=green>
Just checked your profile. You could name it Lucky (as in the SEVENTH tractor)
Just checked your profile. You could name it Lucky (as in the SEVENTH tractor)
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JDGREEN4ME,
One of the dealers I visit who has given me a quote told me that a single backhoe is being developed that is compatible with the 2210, 4010, 4110 and 4115. He said the hoe is a subframe mount and the specs are a small step above the B-hoe on the BX22. In fact, he said that an independent tesing company is testing it side-by-side with a BX22. The Hoe is supposedly in QC now and expected to be released to dealers for orders in April or May 2003.
I don't need a backhoe either, but it's comforting to know one would be available if I ever need one. My wife would have rolled her eyes and laughed aloud if she had heard me say that... /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
One of the dealers I visit who has given me a quote told me that a single backhoe is being developed that is compatible with the 2210, 4010, 4110 and 4115. He said the hoe is a subframe mount and the specs are a small step above the B-hoe on the BX22. In fact, he said that an independent tesing company is testing it side-by-side with a BX22. The Hoe is supposedly in QC now and expected to be released to dealers for orders in April or May 2003.
I don't need a backhoe either, but it's comforting to know one would be available if I ever need one. My wife would have rolled her eyes and laughed aloud if she had heard me say that... /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
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Hi, SethO.
Why is it important that they call it a sub-compact? I think they are testing it against what they see (as do I) as the 2210's biggest competitor, by any name. That much is obvious. I've never understood the hang-up of some people on calling it one thing or the other. It's all about the numbers/specs with me, and most thinking consumers I'll surmise. Even in the literature Massey offers on the GC2300 they refer to the TRACTOR as being "...what is sometimes referred to as a sub-compact tractor." But they don't call it a sub-compact. Trade journalists like Muhammed have a reason to put tractors in class for the sake of comparison but Deere doesn't care what we call it as long as we buy it over the BX or the GC2300, I imagine. I suspect they, like Massey, will market head to head with the BX but what they call it will not change it or its capabilities.
I think I'll not worry about semantics in my analysis. As long as they don't call it a combine, a car, a helicopter, a cheeseburger, a toothbrush, or a turkey sandwich I won't be confused about what it is or its specifications.
Have a good holiday,
Why is it important that they call it a sub-compact? I think they are testing it against what they see (as do I) as the 2210's biggest competitor, by any name. That much is obvious. I've never understood the hang-up of some people on calling it one thing or the other. It's all about the numbers/specs with me, and most thinking consumers I'll surmise. Even in the literature Massey offers on the GC2300 they refer to the TRACTOR as being "...what is sometimes referred to as a sub-compact tractor." But they don't call it a sub-compact. Trade journalists like Muhammed have a reason to put tractors in class for the sake of comparison but Deere doesn't care what we call it as long as we buy it over the BX or the GC2300, I imagine. I suspect they, like Massey, will market head to head with the BX but what they call it will not change it or its capabilities.
I think I'll not worry about semantics in my analysis. As long as they don't call it a combine, a car, a helicopter, a cheeseburger, a toothbrush, or a turkey sandwich I won't be confused about what it is or its specifications.
Have a good holiday,
Bigpete,
I think that class designations sometimes serve very obvious purposes. For instance, In 1999 when Chrysler introduced the PT Cruiser, it was interesting that though sold as a car alternative, they had it designated as a truck so as not to meet certain requirements. SUVs are compared to cars, though almost all of them are trucks.
In the case of tractors, I suppose that as more is required of the smaller machines, it will neccesary to define them as a class, and not only based on total horsepower, but maybe weight, or versatility. When people then design tools, they can focus on that class and not have customers wonder whether their machines satisfy the requirements to use those tools. An example again will be the limitations of 3PH attachments.
The BX machines are definitely not compact tractors, and they are infinitely more versatile than garden tractors, so if a manufacturer (Kubota) calls them sub, and another (JD) introduces a model similar in ALL respects, then in the absence of an alternative and more appropriate name, it should decently refer to the new machine as a sub. Remember, first to the market (Kubota) does not guarantee dominance in that market segment.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Seth
I think that class designations sometimes serve very obvious purposes. For instance, In 1999 when Chrysler introduced the PT Cruiser, it was interesting that though sold as a car alternative, they had it designated as a truck so as not to meet certain requirements. SUVs are compared to cars, though almost all of them are trucks.
In the case of tractors, I suppose that as more is required of the smaller machines, it will neccesary to define them as a class, and not only based on total horsepower, but maybe weight, or versatility. When people then design tools, they can focus on that class and not have customers wonder whether their machines satisfy the requirements to use those tools. An example again will be the limitations of 3PH attachments.
The BX machines are definitely not compact tractors, and they are infinitely more versatile than garden tractors, so if a manufacturer (Kubota) calls them sub, and another (JD) introduces a model similar in ALL respects, then in the absence of an alternative and more appropriate name, it should decently refer to the new machine as a sub. Remember, first to the market (Kubota) does not guarantee dominance in that market segment.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Seth
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Do you know if it would also be compatable with the 4100? I don't think there's much difference between the 4100 and 4110.
jyoutz
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Seth, I was asking if the new backhoe is also going to be compatable with the 4100 as well as the newer 4110 model?
My information is that the BH will be a subframe mounted hoe, I expect that it will somehow fit both the 2210 and the 4010/4110/4115. In addition enough experience will be available from those BX22 guinea pigs (current owners/users) /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif to probably improve substantially on the BH design and feature specifications.
Seth
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SethO,
The info you have on the backhoe, does it say if the subframe for the backhoe will be able to stay on when the backhoe is removed to install the mid mount mower?
Pete sent me a good .pdf file on the 2210, but it didn't address a backhoe. (he does get offended when one questions the Green Giant on their strategy of releasing the 2210, otherwise a good fellow)
Last I checked you had a BX22. All the literature and posts I've read state how easily the implements can be attached and removed, is this true with yours?
Dale
The info you have on the backhoe, does it say if the subframe for the backhoe will be able to stay on when the backhoe is removed to install the mid mount mower?
Pete sent me a good .pdf file on the 2210, but it didn't address a backhoe. (he does get offended when one questions the Green Giant on their strategy of releasing the 2210, otherwise a good fellow)
Last I checked you had a BX22. All the literature and posts I've read state how easily the implements can be attached and removed, is this true with yours?
Dale
The info I have about the backhoe came from the dealership, and I specifically requested for it. The dealers should know, as I have a copy of the bulletin sent to the JD dealers in August that promised a November availabilty for the 2210. When I was being given my quote, the book had 2210 sections there so I know that the quote was not just a show by the dealer.
For the BX22, there is a frame welded to the underside of the chassis to which the BH rests in addition to being coupled to the back of the machine. And both the BH and the MMM can be on the machine at the same time. It is conceivable that a BX2200 can have the same frame welded or bolted on.
My experience is that it takes less than 5 minutes, to remove and attach the BH, FEL and even the MMM. Most folks putting down the machine have never operated one, in my experience and opinion as a non-farmer it is more than adequate, and my property is not a cakewalk. It will be nice if somebody else will step up to the plate with a competitor to the BX22. For now, there is none.
Seth
For the BX22, there is a frame welded to the underside of the chassis to which the BH rests in addition to being coupled to the back of the machine. And both the BH and the MMM can be on the machine at the same time. It is conceivable that a BX2200 can have the same frame welded or bolted on.
My experience is that it takes less than 5 minutes, to remove and attach the BH, FEL and even the MMM. Most folks putting down the machine have never operated one, in my experience and opinion as a non-farmer it is more than adequate, and my property is not a cakewalk. It will be nice if somebody else will step up to the plate with a competitor to the BX22. For now, there is none.
Seth
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If you get a chance to talk with your source again, I would like to know if it will be compatable with the 4100? Or does the new 4110 has a different frame modification than the 4100?
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I had a chance to look at a 2210 yesterday while getting oil and filter for my tractor. It was in the showroom with a loader on it. Pretty sharp looking tractor though too small for my needs.
The thing that caught my eye was a mid-mounted grader blade on a X400 series garden tractor. It was about 4 feet wide and only 6 or 8 inches high but it looked like just the ticket for gravel drive maintenance. I wonder if something like that will be available for the compacts /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
The thing that caught my eye was a mid-mounted grader blade on a X400 series garden tractor. It was about 4 feet wide and only 6 or 8 inches high but it looked like just the ticket for gravel drive maintenance. I wonder if something like that will be available for the compacts /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
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I was quoted $11,250 for the 2210 with a 54 inch MMM, the loader was $2000 I think he said a grill gard was $65. The dealer I went to had two of them. One was already sold.
My BX2200 was less than $12,000 with 60 inch MMM and FEL with GG. I liked the 2210 but I didn't think it was worth $1400 more than the Kubota.
John
My BX2200 was less than $12,000 with 60 inch MMM and FEL with GG. I liked the 2210 but I didn't think it was worth $1400 more than the Kubota.
John
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Understand that many of the tools for the X400 & X500 series tractors will
adapt to work on the JD 2210.
Just noticed the JD 2210 is again listed on the Deere web site under it's
own header on the CUT page...
adapt to work on the JD 2210.
Just noticed the JD 2210 is again listed on the Deere web site under it's
own header on the CUT page...
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