JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft

   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #51  
So far after 10 years the shifter on my 4300 hasn't broken but at times it is difficult to shift. After reading this thread I'm definitely going to limit shifting as well as not try to force it.

I do the same gentle shifting on my 4200.
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #52  
So far after 10 years the shifter on my 4300 hasn't broken but at times it is difficult to shift. After reading this thread I'm definitely going to limit shifting as well as not try to force it.

I do the same gentle shifting on my 4200.

Make sure also to keep the area where the shaft enters the tranny lubricated to prevent corrosion...Fluid Film works great!
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #53  
Make sure also to keep the area where the shaft enters the tranny lubricated to prevent corrosion...Fluid Film works great!

I'm really glad this thread was posted (although I'm sorry when anyone's tractor breaks). It's been an eye-opener, no doubt about it.
And, Kenny's suggestion about keeping that area lubed makes a lot of sense, especially for machines that set for extended times (like my 44000 during the winter).
Just I just happen to have a recently purchased can of Fluid Film too!

That shaft is so easy to break, it happens to lots of units that are not
in rental service, as mine were.

I'm not sure why you wrote that, dfkrug. In the 10 years I've been on TBN, I cannot recall any other posts discussing such a failure. Gotta admit, since I didn't have a 4x00 series machine, I did not follow all of those threads.

UPDATE: I just got back from spraying those fittings (on a reverser, you have the range selector and shift lever. Looks like the same fittings). I used Fluid Film (thanks, Kenny!!)
I don't seen a bad design as long as those fittings are lubricated. The levers are long, but springy (looks like .25-.31 wire). That springiness would reduce sudden or undue torque on the fittings going into the case. As long as the fittings are lubricated regularly, I doubt they'll fail, although I'd rather the diameter of the necked down section (where it enters the case) be about an 1/8th larger. If Deere doesn't require lubrication (my manual isn't handy), they should.
So, for all of us owners of 4x00 series tractors...add lubing those fittings to your rouine lubrication. When you're under there greasing the zerks, hit those range/shifting fittings with a spray lube of some sort. You do not have to pull a tire, but you will want one of those small straws on your spray can. Be liberal...
 
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   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #54  
I'm not sure why you wrote that, dfkrug

This has come up more than just this once on TBN, though I do not
recall how many times. I have heard of this issue thru other sources,
too.

It takes a lot of force to manually rotate the shifter bellcrank with
everything lubed and working as intended. In my rebuild, I operated the
shifter crank numerous times, and it required a wrench to get the leverage
required to overcome the shifter fork detent ball and spring. It is my
opinion that the weakness introduced by the O-ring groove cut into the
shaft is a bad design. Some of the shafts were done this way, and
others used conventional seals that did not require such a groove to
be cut. JD made the wrong choice for the shifter shaft, IMO.

As far as I know, all 10 of the 4300s owned by the rental company that
I got my units from experienced this problem. But that is rental service.
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #55  
This has come up more than just this once on TBN, though I do not recall how many times. I have heard of this issue thru other sources,
too.

It takes a lot of force to manually rotate the shifter bellcrank with
everything lubed and working as intended.

Now, my range and shifter levers move quite easily (even before lubricating).
After this thread, I'll definitely be keeping track of how much force has to be used.
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #56  
The range shift lever moves easily on my JD 4200. If it does bind a touch on the reverse pedal loosens it right up.:thumbsup:

Used hydro oil seems to work as a lubricant for me. I use a spray bottle from a domestic product to apply it.:)
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #57  
I have a 4310 so I hopefully do not have this problem. What I do to shift ranges is find the most level ground near me and use the brakes to reduce pressure on the trans. Using the brakes to "unload" the gears works best IMO.
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #58  
Using the brakes to "unload" the gears works best IMO.

This weekend did some FEL hauling requiring many shifts. Using the brakes does in fact seem to allow the shift level to operate more easily. Is there a mechanical or electronic connection between the brakes and transmission?
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #59  
Is there a mechanical or electronic connection between the brakes and transmission?


Not that I know of that would effect the range lever.

Keep the shaft lubed where it goes into the case.

And most importantly, use finesse when changing ranges. Don't force it. And when you loan it to your father in law, make sure he understands this.;)
 
   / JD4300 -- Catastrophic Failure of the Shift Shaft #60  
I wonder how many of the failures are on hydro units? I think the nature of hydro cause them to put tension on the gear train even without any pedal pressure. Unless the ground is perfectly smooth and the pedal linkage is dead on (no creep), they bind.

Mine shifts smooth as butter without any bind (i.e. engine off), but can bind up pretty tight during operation. A little tap of one or both of the pedals is usually enough to release the bind. Having gone through the effort of repairing the shaft, I pause before trying to force it. If mine were still a rental, I doubt I'd be so gentle. :)
 

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