John Deere 110 vs Kubota M59

[Martian]

MTM,
Can you budget $1000 for a good boxblade? If so then keep an eye out for a used bb from a 210 landscape loader.


Something else to keep in mind, moving full buckets of heavy materials will require the larger rear ballast as discussed above. Moving lighter loads of branches and small trees you could get by with a lighter implement on the rear.

By the time you dug up all the stumps and cleared the debris out of the way you should be able to find a deal on a boxblade. Don't really need it until you have cleared the area enough to be able to use it.


About the machine choices mentioned imo the 110, M59 and L45 are all good choices for this work. I prefer the Deere pedal arrangement, that is a personal choice.

I could pull that off, I definitely wouldn't be purchasing one of them until spring/summer though as I'd have no use this time of year. What is the model number for a 210 box blade so I could look it up? What's the difference between those and the BB42 series? I would ideally get a nice BB42 but we'll have to see - I'm just trying to get a price guesstimate for how much this will all be. I'm really pushing to get the 110 now but the boss is insisting we wait till spring. I think I could make it happen, we'll see - got to keep the boss happy you know!

I too prefer the Deere pedal arrangement but I've been running the twin touch since I got my lawn tractor in 2000 so 11 years now. I'm sure I could get used to it but from the little experience I had on it it was more like moving your entire leg vs just your ankle, but maybe I was doing it wrong. As far as if you need a larger machine than a 110 the M59 is definitely a good option.

 

[jenkinsph]

MTM,
About the time frame you keep mentioning, it has been my experience that I don't always find what I need used on a schedule. If you wait until spring to purchase used equipment the specific items you wan't may take all summer to find. If you plan to use them in the spring or early summer now is the time to make a list and start shopping for good deals and move on them when you find them.

About the box blades, look for the 7' Gannon, Woods/Gannon or Frontier something like the bb1284 since these have been around for many years you have a better chance of finding one used. I wouldn't go larger than the 7' model as it is a load for a 43hp machine. There are other makers of good boxblades but the Gannon is very popular. The 210 uses the same boxblades as a 110 and also a larger 8' model.

In your shoes I would start looking hard for a suitable trailer that way you can pickup the machine and implements as you find them.

 

[Martian]

jenkinsph,

If it were up to me, I'd have it yesterday. Unfortunately financial situation is the greatest and although I could afford it now I'd be stretching. It is a high priority. I'm almost to the point. I'm trying to sell some things to get a little quick cash anyway for it as well.

I looked on tractor house and the Gannon box blades you speak of were listed at $3k new. Seems as though that is a lot less than the Deere series and for a different paint color I see that as nice option.

As far as the trailer I'm still on the fence on whether to buy a new/used or rent. I really won't be trailering a whole lot, it'll be between my place at home during the winter to plow and the cabin for work during the summer - so I really won't be trailering more than 2 or 3 times a year - for that amount I think I could rent and be making money for a long time - if I started trailering more I can see that being more important but I don't know how much I truly "need" it right now.

 

[Martian]

Hi all, just wanted to give an update.

I have a motivated buyer for some of my things, some I will really regret letting go but he is paying about double that value of it - it will mean I would be getting. This isn't a guarantee, but he's wanted to buy it for some time and looks like thing are falling into place.

Anyway, I went around to take another look at one of the 110's around me just to get a feel of it again. I was messing around with the seat and for the life of me couldn't figure out how to flip the darn thing over. Spent close to 10 minutes fumbling around with it. How do you flip it over, I'm sure there's some trick or that one was just not working for some reason.

Another thing I need to look into is trailers - the guy may be buying my trailer as well which will mean I should be in the market for a new trailer. What length, capacity, style and new or used?

Also found some box blades that looked pretty good. Didn't get a price on any but it was in a lot that specializes in all used equipment - they were a JD dealer but were bought out by a bigger dealership and made a little USED dealer right next to it. Anyway they looked to be about a 84 inch but had no way of telling. I'll post some photos below and you can tell me what it is. They did have the hydraulic sacrificer and looked really HD though. BTW, if you are wondering what the tag says in the middle in the second picture it says Nolan's, which is the name of the dealer. What size/brand is this?

Thanks!

 

[Martian]

Another question I had that I would like to add is the one that I looked at didn't have any of the hydro options - how do you control those. i.e. controlling a grapple on the front, the TnT system and a hydraulic box blade? I've searched on line but haven't quite understood.

 

[jenkinsph]

The boc blade looks hopeful, next time you are by there measure the main box tubing. a heavy duty model uses a 5x5 size.

About the seat there is a yellow (Ithink) handle that you twist or rotate to release the seat slider, then make sure the seat is in the rear most position. The latch to release the seat is inward to the center and will release the seat to flip it over. There is a matching lever for the other side to release from the backhoe position.

For the trailer I would look for a 12k or 14k 20ft pull type in good shape problably around 1500 to 2500 used.

 

[Martian]

The boc blade looks hopeful, next time you are by there measure the main box tubing. a heavy duty model uses a 5x5 size.

About the seat there is a yellow (Ithink) handle that you twist or rotate to release the seat slider, then make sure the seat is in the rear most position. The latch to release the seat is inward to the center and will release the seat to flip it over. There is a matching lever for the other side to release from the backhoe position.

For the trailer I would look for a 12k or 14k 20ft pull type in good shape problably around 1500 to 2500 used.

Forgot a tape measure on the trip. Always bring one too. I go to that place all the time and started wandering toward the back and saw that there.

That's what I was doing, I didn't see a yellow handle, I just saw a black one in front that would pick the seat up but was clearly not locked in the back.

As for the trailer I will have to keep a look out because the place I have bought all my trailers from before is no longer. Would you recommend a new or used though? I saw some on some of the lots I was on today but have no idea on price/capacity - just browsed by, I'll have to go back and check.

Can you offer a little insight into how the remotes are controlled?

 

[jenkinsph]

I will look at my seat tommorow so that I can give you better directions.

I would certainly consider a good used trailer as long as the savings is substancial. If it gets close to new in price then better to buy new with a warranty and new tires.

About the remotes, there are a couple of rocker switches next to your right leg, one turns on/off the Aux hydraulics and another that latches the A/B or third outlet for constant operation of the third remote set. On the joystick are a small switch momentary switch on the forward side of the grip. This momentary switch alternates from front to rear hydraulic controls. To the rear of this is a rocker switch to control the third outlet on rear and front aux hydraulics for a grapple or 4 in one bucket. The joystick controls two remaining remotes. A display on the dash displays a graphic identifying whether you are in front or rear remote control. It all works pretty slick and I have never had a problem with it.

When in front control mode the joystick controls the fel lift and bucket, the rocker switch on the fel grip controls the front auxillary hydraulic couplers. When in the rear control mode on mine I use the joystick to control the top 3ph link with forward and rearward pitch. The lateral joystick movements control the tilt of the 3ph. Mine is setup such that I move the joystick in the direction I want the implement to move, makes it intuitive to operate. The rocker switch contols my hydraulic scrifiers or any other rear hydraulic function such as raising or lowering a pull type wheeled disc.

Hope this all makes sense.

 

[CurlyDave]

...About the seat there is a yellow (Ithink) handle that you twist or rotate to release the seat slider, then make sure the seat is in the rear most position. The latch to release the seat is inward to the center and will release the seat to flip it over. There is a matching lever for the other side to release from the backhoe position...

There is one lever under the seat maybe 3" long for the seat slider on the right, and one in the center to release the seat to flip it over. Both of these levers are pulled up to activate them.

Even though I keep my seat in the rearmost position, I need to stand up and pull it all the way forward and then push it all the way back to get it to flip over correctly and latch. This is an inconvenience, but only takes a few seconds. Maybe I need to adjust the latch...

 

[Martian]

That makes more sense. I was thinking that you would cycle between all four of the remotes, so your saying that you push that button and it goes from controlling all the front to all the rear right?

I could only find the one lever when I was trying to do it. Guess I needed to look a little harder.

Another question about the trailer: What kind of ramps do you suggest? I've always gotten the ones that you just set the ramps in the grooves but what about the fold down types? Either the grid type that goes across the entire back or the two that you can slide?