john deere to pull batwing mower

   / john deere to pull batwing mower
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It depends on what kind of mower you are looking at. Orlo has pic of a batwing finish mower made by Frontier. Others are talking about batwing rough cut mowers. JC

no saplings to cut just grass and weeks up to 2 feet high at times thank you
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #12  
no saplings to cut just grass and weeks up to 2 feet high at times thank you

If your cutting grass that tall, then I would have to assume you want a batwing rotary mower and not a finish batwing mower. How many acres to mow? What kind of finish look do you want? I am not sure you know what your want or needs are. New JD 6000 cab with new 15' batwing mower is going to cost 65-75K. New 4x20 series with batwing finish mower near 45-50K. Are you really looking to spend that much?
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #13  
I agree with orlo.

My jd dealer said a 4720 would be plenty to run a 14' batwing 3-60" deck Landpride mower.

You figure, i have a 16hp 1990 lawn mower with a 48" deck, 16hp "gas" x 3 is 48hp. a 58pto hp 4720 would be plenty unless your cutting some heavy stuff, which if your using it as a grooming mower, there should be no problem.
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #14  
I can bog down our 5420 with 65PTO hp with a 6' cutter in our bahia grass. My 4310 will only cut about 1/2 of the 5' cutter in the same grass. So I'm just saying it depends on what you are cutting. It figures up to roughly 10hp per foot of blade to cut Bahia grass. It cuts like steel cable. I have no idea how cow's digest it but they like it.
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #15  
no saplings to cut just grass and weeks up to 2 feet high at times thank you

I agree.. you need a rough cut mower... 2' tall grass is thick stuff.

I mow with a 95hp tractor and a JD 1517 batwing.. if I hit 3' grass.. I will take an rpm hit and have to give it foot throttle to keep her rpm's up ( plenty of power available to do so.. but I wouldn't if I was using a 40-50-60 hp machine. ).

IMHO.. I'd buy a used batwing.. and then find a used ag tractor to run it.. stuff inthe 75-135 hp can be had under 10k$ and a used mower can go from 1500$ to 6500$.

I picked up my used 1998 JD 1517 from a horse farm.. it was WELL used.. but in decent order.. cost me 2000$ plus another 500$ to fix er' up and about a month of sweat equity.

if you want all this new... I hope you got deeeeeep pockets...

soundguy
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #16  
I have a JD 5525 pulling a HX-15 - it works well. I think

I figured my 4720 would pull it ok on level ground but if you have much if any of a hill or have to go thru ditches, etc. = the batwing will be driving the tractor and that can get really ugly in a hurry.

D.
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #17  
what size tractor , smallest that would do job ,do i need to pull at least a 12 foot bat wing mower, i need hydrostatic type transmission-bad knees, also like loader attachment, need to drive tractor 15 miles to and from farm, cab would be nice, also have a suggested mower thanks

Have a 4120 w/15 foot batwing. Use on rolling terain. Have had no problems with power. Mower is a Jacobson. Came from a golf course. But you would have to mow more often. Figure 8 inch max growth is what it could comfortably handle. More than that you need to be hogging. Getting ready to trade the whole outfit in for a cab unit. Don't need the mower anymore as I went to hay production.
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #18  
Sounds like you are talking about a finish / grooming mower.. not a hd rough cut mower..

soundguy
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #19  
I agree.. you need a rough cut mower... 2' tall grass is thick stuff.

I mow with a 95hp tractor and a JD 1517 batwing.. if I hit 3' grass.. I will take an rpm hit and have to give it foot throttle to keep her rpm's up ( plenty of power available to do so.. but I wouldn't if I was using a 40-50-60 hp machine. ).

IMHO.. I'd buy a used batwing.. and then find a used ag tractor to run it.. stuff inthe 75-135 hp can be had under 10k$ and a used mower can go from 1500$ to 6500$.

I picked up my used 1998 JD 1517 from a horse farm.. it was WELL used.. but in decent order.. cost me 2000$ plus another 500$ to fix er' up and about a month of sweat equity.

if you want all this new... I hope you got deeeeeep pockets...

soundguy

So what is the minimum you need for that batwing? Sounds like 95 HP works with no problems, would 75HP struggle??
 
   / john deere to pull batwing mower #20  
I have seen a 70 hp tractor pull a 15' mower in flat areas with low growth.. IE.. just clipping thin grass tops.. I do not consider it an ideal setup... A 12'er would probably be a better fit to 75 hp... but then it all depnds on what type of stuff you mow, and how often you want to mow.

I pull a 10' mower with my ford 5000... it's 67 or so at the pto. It will walk down just about anything the font axle wil make it over.

the 7610s has no problems under most conditions.. i have occasionally made it grunt and smoke a bit mowing 3' grass.. and 5-6' brush in 5th gear with a 15' mower.. I did have to bump the hand throttle up a bit to maintain pto speed.. but i still had throttle left over and the engine was still responsive to the throttle so it was not being overloaded.. though. I probably could have taken it a bit easier on the girl and downshifted to 4 or 3.. but I was curious as to what she would do. I can tell you the 3' thick sawgrass was alot more load than 5-6' stemmy brush.

soundguy
 

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