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Most likely some sort of 'high impact' plastic. Saw builders today are employing more and more plastic parts in as much as they are less expensive to produce, are lighter and structurally are just as good strength wise as alloy.

If you want alloy parts, better be buying an older saw and most likely rebuilding it or have the OP rebuild it for you as again, you won't find very many 'modern' saws devoid of plastic parts today. Why I like my old Stihl's alloy parts but then again repairing busted alloy parts (especially crankcases) entails some rather sophisticated welding techniques. Welding aluminum or magnesium alloys require TIG welding and extreme pre prep and the filler rod is super expensive as well. Just TIG welded a Dolmar with a cracked oil tank that was peeing bar oil everywhere. I had to complete disassemble the saw, carefully prep the casting to remove any and all traces of bar oil, I had to hot tank degrease the case and then clean it again with non chlorinated brake cleaner, numerous times, pressure dry it and then weld it and the filler rod was insanely expensive as well plus I had to run straight argon on the TIG welder, bevel the crack in the case and weld it on the inside as well as the outside and take special precautions when welding it because magnesium alloy's are flammable if over heated, especially any grinding swarf. I returned the saw to the owner not assembled as I don't do that sort of thing (rebuild-reassemble) saws anyway. TIG welding aluminum or aluminum-magnesium alloys are difficult to put it mildly and only reason I did it was because it was for a friend but I still charged him for the filler rod and yes, the external weld looks 'cobbly' but the Dolmar is his baby so I did it for him.

Die cast alloys always look nice until they have to be repaired, then they don't look so pretty. Have no idea how he cracked the case in front and didn't ask either. All I know was, it was peeing bar oil everywhere and making a huge mess. Don't now or I assume it don't now as again I returned it to him in a box, not assembled.

The issue with repairing ANY failed part or die casting that has been subject to oil contamination is all in the prep. You absolutely MUST remove all traces of any lubricant or grease to effectuate a sound and non porous weld. That applies to even mild steel. That is what takes time and patience. After I welded I dye scanned the weld to make sure it was sound and had no leaks. Not something an ordinary 'Joe' can do successfully in their home shop either. I own the equipment including the hot tank degreaser.
How does it dissipate heat, I thought that's why pro saws were magnesium? Lighter but still metal vs cast alloy?
I understand the complexity of weld repairs, but don't think the plastic would be easy to repair either?
 
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Husky covers MAG not plastic.

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#2,183  
MAG can see paint off this one on older.

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How does it dissipate heat, I thought that's why pro saws were magnesium? Lighter but still metal vs cast alloy?
I understand the complexity of weld repairs, but don't think the plastic would be easy to repair either?
Dont listen to him. Echo uses PLASTIC

Husqvarna uses MAG metal

New ones

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   / Just another junk chainsaw #2,185  
Yes, Echo non-pro uses plastic. Was wondering what that cover was on the new husky since it had a very plasticky look. Expected it would be magnesium like the others.
 
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Yes, Echo non-pro uses plastic. Was wondering what that cover was on the new husky since it had a very plasticky look. Expected it would be magnesium like the others.
My pro 501 is plastic too. Wish was a mag cover.

Pretty sure my 2511PN is a plastic cover too. It is in bold lettering right on website.



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What’s ECHO’s best powerhead for 36”?
Wonder if thats a better route than Holzforma.
 
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What’s ECHO’s best powerhead for 36”?
Wonder if thats a better route than Holzforma.
US market. They dont make one for that IMHO anymore.

Unless you was cutting softwoods. Maybe their 7310 might but it is really gutless stock and wont run with a 572 or 462 stock. But ported it is mean. If ported by right folks. ;)

Was their old tank that weighed the same as a 660. 800P

Then you got the ones we have shipped in 1201 old school saw and still made new. It will out cut the 880 though. My friend owns both.



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   / Just another junk chainsaw #2,189  
OK, so what’s best choice to run 36” occasionally?
Don’t want to spend $1,500.
Used Stil 6x, 8x is getting up near $1,500
 
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I would think being a stihl guy and being it prob cost less then the 500 the 661.
OK, so what’s best choice to run 36” occasionally?
Don’t want to spend $1,500.
Used Stil 6x, 8x is getting up near $1,500
OEM 661 with 36" is 1700 retail. Bet you can do better.

G660 PHO like $300. G660 pro like $400.

or buy a used 660. I owned like 6 oem myself. Can buy them 5-600.

New 660 was going for 1200 shipped in.

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564

Without doing .5mm stuff.

This is bore and stroke I come up with to fit the cc.

47 bore and 36 stroke
 
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Is this intended to replace the 562?
Sure looks like it could be. Just my WAG no real clue.

Just like the new 400 is replacing old 400 and 362.
 
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Sure looks like it could be. Just my WAG no real clue.

Just like the new 400 is replacing old 400 and 362.
Well now I want one, not that I have any issue with my 562. Have been extremely happy with it (other than the occasional hot start issue).

Unfortunatly I am more in the market for a milling saw and have different needs.
 
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Farmertec G466 460 76.5cc

Well let’s see how ole girl does now. Even gave a new dress. Thanks Smittys saw shop.
Cylinder from Fabcorp , Farmertec D cc standard bore.
Dukes chain to test with from Sawsalvage.

Piston a meteor I had from a failed attemt by them making a p for 475 2077

Been my grunt chit job saw for past 2 years when needed. One set up uses stihl carbide chain for 20" under ground root cutting.

Used for stumping this years with 32"

Hopefully lives up to song playing as I buttoned it up. Bad to the bone.



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   / Just another junk chainsaw #2,196  
I would think being a stihl guy and being it prob cost less then the 500 the 661.

OEM 661 with 36" is 1700 retail. Bet you can do better.

I can get 10% off local Stihl dlr. Probalem is, I’ll opt for the lightweight bar and cancel out my 10% saving :rolleyes:
G660 PHO like $300. G660 pro like $400.

or buy a used 660. I owned like 6 oem myself. Can buy them 5-600.

New 660 was going for 1200 shipped in.

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Used 660 for 5-600?

I’m going to have to go through a little guilt buying a chinese saw (yeah I know, many euro saws have chinese parts).
 
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Farmertec G466 460 76.5cc

Well let’s see how ole girl does now. Even gave a new dress. Thanks Smittys saw shop.
Cylinder from Fabcorp , Farmertec D cc standard bore.
Dukes chain to test with from Sawsalvage.

Piston a meteor I had from a failed attemt by them making a p for 475 2077

Been my grunt chit job saw for past 2 years when needed. One set up uses stihl carbide chain for 20" under ground root cutting.

Used for stumping this years with 32"

Hopefully lives up to song playing as I buttoned it up. Bad to the bone.



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How ya like that ratcheting scrench? I have been thinking about buying one.
 
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How ya like that ratcheting scrench? I have been thinking about buying one.
They finally got it right. Took some time. I think there is 3-4 generations over the years. Yes I have them all to know this. In beginning lot of feedback and things they fixed.

Really nice on true full wraps.

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I can get 10% off local Stihl dlr. Probalem is, I’ll opt for the lightweight bar and cancel out my 10% saving :rolleyes:

Used 660 for 5-600?

I’m going to have to go through a little guilt buying a chinese saw (yeah I know, many euro saws have chinese parts).
Yep what I typed didnt I, 5-600 for used 660's OEM

I had like 5-6 of them all runners. PHO, some with bars. One was even
ported.

Still see them for that.
 
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Here is one 660 I sold for like 150 shipped.

Guy had the parts to put on it and got him a runner for that.


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