Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket!

   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #41  
I run bias on my tractors not because of the radial difference but because bias holds up better in corn stubble....and they are cheaper.
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #42  
Well, I am afraid of breaking my shiny new toy:D So far 90% of my use has been with the loader and with only 26 hours of loader work on my tractor I don't know better than the manual just yet, but soon I guess I will try things and not get burned and I guess that will become my new SOP. I think if you guys reread your manuals you'll find they have all sorts of warnings of what not to do as well. But you guys run your tractors how you like and I'll run mine and hopefully none of us break down.

It would be a mistake to think those of us who operate our machinery outside the parameters set forth in the Operator Manual have not read it and in fact go back periodically to reread it.

Operator Manuals for most machinery are written to provide useful information on operation and maintenance, but also to protect the manufacturer from law suits and with an eye towards warranty work.

If I operated my ATV or Rhino per manual, I could barely take it out of the yard. One section warns against going up a grade of more than 15 degrees. I am also not supposed to go across slopes etc. We won't even go into firearms. I carried a gun on my job that according to the manual wasn't supposed to be loaded unless I was on the range and our instructors/trainers had us doing stuff specifically prohibited by the maker.

Years of experience has shown many of us that we can safely and effectively operate beyond what is indicated in the Operator Manual. I am in the process of filling in washouts on very hilly ground and have been since this spring. If I go by the manual, I can't even get to the washouts and if I could, because nothing is level, couldn't do anything if I got there. I am hauling rock and dirt as well as digging crossings and pushing trees, brush etc.

Based on your experience you are operating your tractor as you should. It may surprise you to know that until I become acquainted with a new tractor, I too am pretty conservative; well relatively speaking.

Agreed, we should operate our tractors as we see fit and be willing to accept the consequences whether that be increased repair costs or diminished productivity. We have different needs/expectations and as long as they are met and we are happy then all is well.

As mentioned previously, for me if a tractor won't stand up to how I use it, I'll buy one that will.
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #43  
I run the lowest practical pressure in the fronts on my tractors as I don't enjoy getting beat up in the field. I do air up for loader work, or pick up something that weighs a few thousand lbs on the 3 point.

I have rolled a tire off the front rim, and yes you need to clean clean clean to keep it from leaking. If it leaks at all it won't self seal over time in my experience.
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket!
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#44  
Thanks for all the replies, guys.

I had to work my "day job" today, so no tractor work. The tire still looked like it had pressure when I walked by it tonight. I have not put a gauge on it tonight. Before I use the tractor again (probably Friday), I'll air it up.

There was sand and gravel around when I rolled the tire off. I used my blow gun all around both beads, and wiped what I could reach of the rim. There still may have been some grit that I missed, though.

I think it was some kind of glycerin mix that the tire guys in my area used. When I had my inherited tire changer, I had a pot of it, with a mop brush for applying it around the bead.

If I continue to have trouble with the tire, I will probably have another attempt at cleaning up and reseating the bead before I put a tube in it. If that fails, I'm probably going with a tube.

Yes, I will be checking the pressure regularly on the fronts from now on. My rears are filled, with calcium I believe. I once read in another thread that you can get a special tire gauge for filled tires. I've got to pick up one of those.
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #45  
IMO the last thing you want is tubes in a tire! You probably got dirt in the bead is all . So dismount, clean both bead surfaces. I have seen grease used on the bead. And also have used Either to seat beads. Air up the front tires to max recommended air pressure and dig on ! I bet you will keep an eye on air pressure after this!:thumbsup:
I get the part about dirt in bead, grease, ether and air pressure but what's the problem with having tubes in a tractor tire?
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #46  
Someone earlier on in this Thread said they did loader work in 4WD, but someone else I know told me just today that you dont because he did it and cost him a few hundred on repairs...so who is right on this question. 2WD OR 4WD ?
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #48  
My Kubota manual says do NOT fill front tires.

IMHO, and in the opinion of many, many TBN members, FEL work is EXACTLY when you need 4wd...assuming that the surface you are working on has some give to it, as generally the case when not on pavement.

I'll give you that if using FEL on hard pavement use of 4wd is not advised....my manual says to NOT use 4wd when on hard, ungiving pavement.
 
   / Keep front wheels straight when filling bucket! #49  
Will putting water in the front tires help with keeping tires in place during loader work?

I think that it depends on what your manufacturer recommends. I have my front tires loaded, and they have been for 30 years with 4 wheel drive with no issues, but it depends on how Hefty your front gears, and set up is. The extra ballast helps me quite a bit, but it helps with the weight that I have on the back, not for a front end loader in my case.
 

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