Keeps stalling out

[landedakioti]

My dk40se hst keeps stalling out when you dig and the rpms are at 2500. Then its stalls when dumping gravel. And it had the 50hr services i'm at 57 now. Dealer wont return my call and connie keeps hanging up. How can i by pass connie.

 

[kiotiken]

This is definitely not something you need to contact Kioti about, not yet anyway. What kind of dealer do you have? Mine has regular business hours, a showroom and shop and most importantly, a phone. If that doesn't sound like your dealer, you need to find one like that, they'd happily take your call and Kioti's money to fix your tractor under warranty. If you still can't get satisfaction from your dealer or any others and have a valid concern that needs to be address by Kioti, Kioti members on TBN will be happy to steer you past Connie.

 

[Dingo Man]

We could but it is to soon . There is a minimum of at least ten interactions with Connie before you can go onto the next level:laughing:

 

[landedakioti]

We could but it is to soon . There is a minimum of at least ten interactions with Connie before you can go onto the next level:laughing:

Good dingo man i think fighting a month with connie and the dealer with my tires was more then ten times. I do like the tractor a lot it's not the tractor fault we have to deal with connie.
It sad when you kioti gets sick.

 

[landedakioti]

Good one.

 

[kiotiken]

Good dingo man i think fighting a month with connie and the dealer with my tires was more then ten times. I do like the tractor a lot it's not the tractor fault we have to deal with connie.
It sad when you kioti gets sick.

Ahhhh yes, now I remember a little more of your story. Your dealer doesn't sound like someone you want to be calling anyway! OK, the first thing to do is forget you've ever talked to your dealer. Is there another one reasonably close by? Mine is well over an hour even though there are at least two that are closer, sometime it pays to go a little further. If there is no other dealer within 100 mile of you, you will get help from Kioti if you tell them your dealer and the only one close to you refuses contact with you over a previous disagreement. Unfortunately, they don't have a group of mechanics they're going to send you, they may help step in and ensure your dealer takes care of your machine. Still not the way I'd go, I'd truck it 300 miles first.

 

[IndyIan]

Are you sure you aren't dead heading the rear remote valve on the detent? Even with that, I guess shouldn't stall out the tractor at 2500 rpm though... Check your loader hydraulic connections too, I've never tried deadheading the rear remote and the loader at the same time but that might stall out the tractor?
Hopefully another dealer is reasonably close.

 

[kiotiken]

It's not hard to stall the machine, at any RPM, if you're digging in low gear and curling and lifting the FEL at the same time. It's stalling while dumping gravel I don't understand, can you elaborate on that?

 

[landedakioti]

It's not hard to stall the machine, at any RPM, if you're digging in low gear and curling and lifting the FEL at the same time. It's stalling while dumping gravel I don't understand, can you elaborate on that?

When it stalled when i was dumping i was stopped i had the bucket low to the ground i move the bucket up to the top of hood started dumping the load and the tractor died put it N and started back up. It happen twice dumping and six time lightly digging sand.

 

[kiotiken]

Does the machine labour and then stall as if you were just pushing it a little to far, or does it just die, from 2500 RPM to 0?

 

[landedakioti]

Does the machine labour and then stall as if you were just pushing it a little to far, or does it just die, from 2500 RPM to 0?

It just dies . I don't fill the bucket i do half or less . Don't want to strain the loader or the tractor.

 

[kiotiken]

OK, so it's not a hydraulic issue like the remotes being dead headed. Sounds like fuel. Start with the simple like the fuel filter. When it stalls, check to see if there's too much or no fuel in the filter housing. I'd also pull the air filter to make sure it's not plugged up. If all the simple things check out, I'm sure plenty of guys here can tell you how to check other stuff like the fuel pump. Have you found another dealer to call?

 

[rjwerth]

OK, so it's not a hydraulic issue like the remotes being dead headed. Sounds like fuel. Start with the simple like the fuel filter. When it stalls, check to see if there's too much or no fuel in the filter housing. I'd also pull the air filter to make sure it's not plugged up. If all the simple things check out, I'm sure plenty of guys here can tell you how to check other stuff like the fuel pump. Have you found another dealer to call?

I disagree. Check your rear remote lever. Make sure it isn't locked forward or backward. I had a similar thing happen when one my Backhoe hoses popped off the remote, deadheading the pump.

As for calling Kioti....it is waay to early to be calling them direct. If the dealer who sold you the tractor sucks, find yourself another one. These are issues that are so easily handled by a competent dealer. Sending issues like this straight to corporate just makes getting real issues there harder to do.

 

[kiotiken]

I disagree. Check your rear remote lever. Make sure it isn't locked forward or backward. I had a similar thing happen when one my Backhoe hoses popped off the remote, deadheading the pump.

As for calling Kioti....it is waay to early to be calling them direct. If the dealer who sold you the tractor sucks, find yourself another one. These are issues that are so easily handled by a competent dealer. Sending issues like this straight to corporate just makes getting real issues there harder to do.

If it's deadheaded, the engine will labour, and then stall. If it is going along fine and then just stalls with no other warning, then that's not from it being deadheaded.

 

[rjwerth]

As a newbee, it took me nearly half an hour to realize the engine was laboring when it happened to me. It really wasn't all that obvious at higher RPMS until I started working the loader more seriously. But hey, let's see what the OP comes back with before we start giving him more bad news.

 

[landedakioti]

So she didn't stall today moving 72 yrds of gravel . Now i'm almost done building a road for a non profit. Then i will start clean up the brush and looking in to buying a stump bucket,

 

[seacap04]

A few months back my 07 DK45SE HST (700 hrs) went on a 2 day binge of just stalling randomly at around 2000 rpm. At the start I changed fuel filter even though it looked and was clean. I blead fuel at IP and injector tips. Checked all assocated electrical connections, all clean. Continued to stall randomly for another day and a half. I though IP was going bad. Day 3 ran fine all day and has continued to do so for 70 hrs. I have no clue what caused it.

 

[landedakioti]

It is weird how it would stall one day and not do it the next day doing the same work.

 

[DK35vince]

It is weird how it would stall one day and not do it the next day doing the same work.

Still sounds to me like a remote was stuck in the detent position, deadheading the pump, then any extra hydraulic work using the loader would stall the engine.

 

[SSdoxie]

Still sounds to me like a remote was stuck in the detent position, deadheading the pump, then any extra hydraulic work using the loader would stall the engine.

Hydraulic load will not multiply/increase in this scenario. Releif for the rear remote is same as the loader, at inlet of the loader and all oil exiting lift or bucket cylinders goes directly to tank, it does not enter back into the open center (power beyond circuit) so when lidt or tilt is activated it would reduce pressure against the pump to whatever was required to move the cylinder. If cylinder load was maxed then same relief would, engine load would remain same as with dead headed rear remote.