King Kutter heavy-duty disk

[PAMike]

Anyone have any experience with the King Kutter 3 pt disk? I'm in the market for a bigger set of disks and have looked at these at TSC and wondered if they would work well and last. I currently have about 6 acres to plant and I need something bigger than my small pull behind one now. I have a late 60's AC 170 which has around 55 HP so it would handle this implement. I may also look around at some farm auctions but I'm always leery about buying used equipment. Anyone have any idea how big of disk I can comfortably handle with my tractor?

I think our local TSC wanted a little less than $1200 last summer for the 7.5 ft model. Here's a pic:

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Anyone have any experience with the King Kutter 3 pt disk? I'm in the market for a bigger set of disks and have looked at these at TSC and wondered if they would work well and last. I currently have about 6 acres to plant and I need something bigger than my small pull behind one now. I have a late 60's AC 170 which has around 55 HP so it would handle this implement. I may also look around at some farm auctions but I'm always leery about buying used equipment. Anyone have any idea how big of disk I can comfortably handle with my tractor?

I think our local TSC wanted a little less than $1200 last summer for the 7.5 ft model. Here's a pic:

A friend with a 160 Allis pulls an 8' wheel disc. (40+hp?) 55 HP should handle 8 to 10' with relative ease. You wouldn't hardly even notice a 6' disc behind that tractor.

From all I've seen, the KK heavy duty disc seems to be well made and heavy enough to do the job. I prefer a disc with scrapers in the clay soil we have here. I'm not sure if KK offers them as an option or not.

 

[scott_vt]

Afternoon Mike,
I dont think you would have any problem pulling that size disc with that much HP.

Some of KK equipment looks pretty descent and some looks a bit flimsy.

Last month my neighbor gave me this Taylor Way 7ft disc and the middle support that controls the agressiveness of the front gangs is cracked. Its just rectangular stock with evenly spaced holes to interchange the locking pin. Im thinking of cutting out that section and welding in a solid piece with the same hole pattern.

 

[andrewj]

Anyone have any experience with the King Kutter 3 pt disk? I'm in the market for a bigger set of disks and have looked at these at TSC and wondered if they would work well and last. I currently have about 6 acres to plant and I need something bigger than my small pull behind one now. I have a late 60's AC 170 which has around 55 HP so it would handle this implement. I may also look around at some farm auctions but I'm always leery about buying used equipment. Anyone have any idea how big of disk I can comfortably handle with my tractor?

I think our local TSC wanted a little less than $1200 last summer for the 7.5 ft model. Here's a pic:

i have that model - the one pictured is only 6.5 feet wide. I have never been particularly happy with the weight. Mine's for sale...600.00. I pulled it with a 50 hp tractor and it never even slowed it down. I am looking for a 8 or 9 foot disk harrow twice the weight as I have a 20 acre project next year.

 

[Dk45_Jeff]

I’m happy with the 6.5’ foot version working plowed ground prepping the seed bed and burying crop residue. My 45 hp tractor pulls it easily. Changing the gang angle is a simple but tedious exercise. Remove a couple of bolts, reposition the gangs, fiddle with them to realign the bolt holes and reinstall the bolts. I don't have to adjust it often but, but wish it had a worm gear adjustment system when I do.

At 880 pounds it’s really too light for use as a primary tillage implement if that’s your intention. It can be made to work but will require a lot of passes to break up unplowed soil and incorporate the surface residue. Tufline has some models nearly 3 times the weight for the same cutting width if you want a disc more suited to working unprepared ground.

 

[schmism]

At 880 pounds it’s really too light for use as a primary tillage implement if that’s your intention. It can be made to work but will require a lot of passes to break up unplowed soil and incorporate the surface residue. Tufline has some models nearly 3 times the weight for the same cutting width if you want a disc more suited to working unprepared ground.

so is this not were you simply pick up some 6' sections of railroad rail and bolt/weld/glue them on the top?

 

[PAMike]

It would be used as a primary tillage implement for food plots. I don't plow, just spray a few times and disk. I currently use a small pull behind single gang disk that's probably a third of the weight of the KK and I've made good plots with it but it's just too small for the amount of acres I'm planting now. When I was only planting an acre or two it wasn't as big of a deal to go over a plot several times to get good tillage. With 6+ acres it just takes too much valuable time away to do many passes. I contemplated a tiller but my ground is semi-rocky and wasn't sure a tiller would hold up to the abuse.

From what I've gathered from several forums I think I'll look for a good used set of farm disks and if I can't find anything this winter/spring that meets my needs in good condition I'll get the KK. Thanks for all the replies.

Mike

 

[Dk45_Jeff]

so is this not were you simply pick up some 6' sections of railroad rail and bolt/weld/glue them on the top?

Some people do that and it works for them. But there is a significant risk of breaking the frame or causing other damage.


Mike,

Food plots are different animal then crops since maximum yield isn't the objective. If you're happy with the results from your current disc, then more then likely you'll be happy with the 7.5' King Kutter.

 

[JoeinTX]

Yeah, if your cool with your current single-gang disc then the KK will seem like dramatic upgrade. If you were looking to move to primary tillage and serious heavy use then there are others more capable.

 

[DDT]

I have found my LP 2570 tiller is the best one pass tool I have and like you the ground is worked once or twice a year, round up does the rest. I can noramaly work 1 acre per hour with my 50hp tractor. It does take a lot of abuse, rocks and way to much other stuff. With your tractor I would vote for a older used 10' disk, these will be heaver than most new one today. weight is what you will need to tear up the ground since you have a heavy tractor to pull it for a one pass tool.

 

[flINTLOCK]

Has anyone compared the KK heavy duty disc to the corresponding version offered by Landpride. My NH dealer handles Landpride and it would be another opportunity for him to feather his nest!!

 

[andrewj]

so is this not were you simply pick up some 6' sections of railroad rail and bolt/weld/glue them on the top?

no it's not. do that and you 'll be breaking disks, bending the shafts, and over stressing the other lightweight components. Ask me how I know!!!!! Like I said, I have that model and have tried adding weight..(I have a whole thread on ikt here on TBN). With that model, you first have to either use a bottom plow or chisel plow, unles you have sand land.

 

[bjr]

I have the KK Five Point model of that disc. I have a 35 hp Jinma to pull it with. I've mostly use to do 1 AC. or less of garden plots for the neighbors. It does okay with multiple passes. I've had to prepare old pastures for seed and got kinda frustrated breaking up that stuff so I went out and bought a old JD two bottom plow for pasture seed bed planting. Back to the Disc, I would try and find a little bigger & heavier disc for the horsepower you have. You would be happier in the long run for the acerage you have. bjr

 

[DDT]

flINTLOCK,
The LP should be a lot heavyer. I have all ways bought by weight, convert $ in LBS for the best deal. Heaver is all ways better for me.

 

[kwolfe]

If you look at both the websites, you will notice that the Landpride is definitely heavier than the KK. The KK is 90 inches and wieghs 880lbs. The 96 inch Landpride wieghs in at 1143lbs. I would think that 260lbs would defintely help with penetration.

 

[N80]

One thing to consider is the lift capacity of your 3 pt hitch if you intend to buy a (real) heavy duty 3 pt model. I suspect a wheeled model would be a better idea if the weight exceeds your 3 pt hitch capacity.

Andrew, I live in SC as well (piedmont region) and I have considered this disk as well, specifically the 6.5 foot model. I have mostly clay and rocks, but, I managed a few decent food plots just using the teeth on my box blade. I think my biggest problem was that not putting down enough lyme. I'm just wondering if it would be a waste of money to buy them if you had no success at all with them. I think I could pull a one or two bottom plow with my 45hp, 4wd Kubota, but man, that would take forever to get anything done and then probably need disking anyway. Maybe I can rip things up with the BB and then run the disk over that?

 

[Gizmo36]

There are two kinds of disc Harrows, one is a cutting harrows the other is a smoothing harrow. The one PAMike showed in the picture is a smoothing harrows. it is made for plow land that has been turn over with a turn plow in the fall or a cutting plow..then in the spring you can smooth it out. you can cut with it if you go over and over and over it. I was working some land that has not been work in a long time this summer .I cut it with a cutting harrow ,Then use a smoothing harrow . Then I use a drag harrow to finish it. Then I planted it in wheat. If it is not raining tomorrow I will take some picture's of a big cutting harrow and a small cutting harrow and post it.

 

[JoeinTX]

Giz is making a good point.....there are disc plows and disc harrows. They do different things.

Heavier tandem/offset discs can be primary first-pass tillage. Lighter disc harrows are just a tool for smoothing moldboard/chisel plowing, busting rough spots, and cutting plant residue.

All that said, the plow pictured is KK's attempt at combining the two.

Under the right conditions (relative moisture, lack of rocks, etc) this KK plow can do primary tillage.....in less desirable conditions it's a multi-pass attempt at breaking enough ground to plant/seed.

Your tractor can pull 7.5' no problem and even more. Besides, it sounds like an improvement over your current disc in about every way possible.

 

[N80]

That might be all I need then. The box blade teeth actually turn things over pretty well. I make several passes. But, that tends to leave furrows that the seed falls in and it comes up in little rows. I've tried homemade harrows out of chain link fence, etc, but they do not work. Not at all in fact. So, maybe I need to bust things up with the BB and then run a disk like the KK over it a few times, put the seed out and then drag it with the chain link fence thing (and maybe it will work better). Personally, in my soil, I mean my rocks, I think I would probably tear up a mold board or middle buster type plow pretty quick.

 

[Gizmo36]

Now I am not saying you can not cut with smoothing Harrows . Because you can ,If the ground has been work before they work good. But if you are cut up pasture land or land that has laid out for a long time an has been pack .Then you need a cutting Harrow or a Bottom plow or a disc tiller to work it first. If I cut grain then I just run the Field Cultivator to brake it up then use smoothing harrow to finish it. And a cutting harrow almost work like a Disc tiller.I was looking at the picture of the Box Frame Disc Harrows . I don't see why you can not set them up for cutting .The people that makes Harrows has try for 50 years to build a smoothing harrow for cutting it just don't work good.

The first two picture's is a big cutting harrow. it takes 110 HP to pull it good

The other two picture's is for a compact tractors.