Kioti 3510 drive problem

[Jake12]

Hi all, just thought I would run this by you in case I’m missing something basic and can fix it myself. While driving up a steep hill today I started spinning. In the past I just engaged the dif lock and climbed right up the hill. Now, just the front wheels turn and there is no power to the rear wheels. I tried different gears, nothing, then tried going up backwards. no problem climbing in reverse. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[deezler]

ruh roh. So if you take it out of 4 wheel drive, do you have no motion at all? I am guessing that you leave the machine in 4WD all the time?

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Jake12]

Thanks Deezler. Yes, Ive been leaving it in four wheel due the terrain. A little forward motion when I take it out but stops when I get to an incline.

 

[Roadworthy]

I wonder if the clutch could be slipping. See if it will go in a lower range in 2WD. You could also check the clutch adjustment. You should have about an inch of free play (more or less) before you come to the resistance of actually operating the clutch.

 

[Jake12]

I’ll give that a try today, thank you.

 

[Jake12]

No luck on the clutch adjustment. It was worth a try. Thank you for the suggestion.

 

[Stan B]

Are the rims spinning in the tire? Grab a paint marker and make index marks on both the tire and rim, then try your maneuver again. If the lines don't line up after, add some air to your tires.

 

[Jake12]

I will give that a try Stan. Thank you.

 

[Jake12]

I think that’s it! Thank you Stan, as well as other who chimed in, you saved me an expensive trip to the dealer.
I really appreciate this forum.

 

[deezler]

Whoa, seriously? I would have thought the tires would need to be basically totally flat in order to spin in the rim. Or that it would be quite noticeable. But that idea definitely lines up with the symptoms you were experiencing.

What was your pressure like? I think my 3510 rears stay around 25 psi.

 

[Jake12]

Didn’t think to check the pressure deezler and the tires looked normal. I just added air and headed for the first steep hill. But I guess that explains the leaking beet juice. argh. !! Live and learn.

 

[rademamj1]

Yes, that definitely explains the leaking fluid. You should fill and pressure check all tires to recommended levels. And tighten down all your wheel lug nuts to insure none are loose.

 

[deezler]

But I guess that explains the leaking beet juice. argh. !! Live and learn.

Hahahahaha! Sorry to laugh but that's pretty funny. Live and learn indeed! Stick around, this forum is super helpful.

 

[Stan B]

But I guess that explains the leaking beet juice

I swear, that stuff works almost as good as "bead lube" as it does for weight. Instances of tire spinning seem to happen much more often in tires loaded with beet juice.

 

[DK35vince]

I swear, that stuff works almost as good as "bead lube" as it does for weight. Instances of tire spinning seem to happen much more often in tires loaded with beet juice.

Sure seems that way.
Tires slipping on rims seems much more common the last few years.

 

[mcmopar]

I have a question regarding the pressure in the rear tires. I also have a CK 3510, had the farm tire folks fill the rears with the beat juice, they set the tire pressure at 15 psi. They stated that would give a good footprint and the best traction. Is 15psi good or to low? I have had no issues and don't want any!

 

[Stan B]

I have a question regarding the pressure in the rear tires. I also have a CK 3510, had the farm tire folks fill the rears with the beat juice, they set the tire pressure at 15 psi. They stated that would give a good footprint and the best traction. Is 15psi good or to low? I have had no issues and don't want any!

I run on mostly asphalt, concrete and a little gravel, so I keep my pressures at around 20 in the rear, and (I think) 40 up front. When I work mostly on dirt, I lower the rears to 12 psi. If I'm not lifting anything heavy with the FEL, I'll air down the fronts to around 25 psi. If it's going to be parked for more than a couple of days, I air up to the "hard surface" pressure.

I arrived at the hard surface air pressures by mostly observing contact patch pattern. The dirt pressures, I fiddled around with and came up with the ones that seemed to offer better traction.

I should also add, I do NOT have loaded tires.

 

[rScotty]

I have a question regarding the pressure in the rear tires. I also have a CK 3510, had the farm tire folks fill the rears with the beat juice, they set the tire pressure at 15 psi. They stated that would give a good footprint and the best traction. Is 15psi good or to low? I have had no issues and don't want any!

That's an interesting question. I have never had fluid-filled tires, so know nothing about fluid fill or calcium vs beet juice.
I do know that I like a softer ride on my tractors. So for many years I've run my rear Ag and Turf tires at about 12 to 15 psi. No problems with slipping. Fronts I run at about 25 to 30 psi because of the FEL. No problems there either.

But on both our TLBs, if we run their rear Titan R4 industrial tires at 12 to 15psi the tires bulge a little at the bottom and get weather cracks in the sidewalls. No leaks, no spinning, no problems .... but the cracks are sure ugly and have to shorten the life of the tires. .
So I've taken to running the rear R4s Industrial tires at 22 to 24 psi. That works.
rScotty

 

[Jake12]

Good idea. I will adjust the pressure as needed and check the lug nuts. Thank you.

 

[skipmarcy]

I run my methanol filled rears at 10 psi for the best ground contact - been like that for 20 years, not a single problem. 17.5 - 24 R4 Titans. My front 12 ply 16.5 R4s I run at 38 psi as I keep the FEL on all the time. When my right front one leaks down after a month or so you can't even tell it's low unless you get a bucket full of something the sidewalls are so stiff.