Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent

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   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #11  
I actually have the Woods 1012 loader on my Ck30 as do several other TBN members, Im very pleased with its performance, its acutally pretty stout and i really couldnt expect more from a 30hp machine. I also have the Woods 80xt backhoe and its also quite impressive in its capabilties... That said, ive yet to see a K130 loader actually fail, the cracking issue is supposed to be redesigned soon ,if you liked the K130, id just make sure the dealer your buying from will take care of the cracking issue once the redesign is completed. I dont know much about the Koyker loaders, but there is also Bush hog and Rhino loaders available if your considering an aftermarket loader. Many tractor dealers also sell aftermarket loaders, that varies form dealer to dealer. When i was tractor shopping i actually found severl major brand tractor dealers who preferred to use aftermarket loader and backhoes over their own brands . Brands like Woods and Bradcoe were very well respected. I really think that most of the popular loader companies make very good quality loaders, so their are several different loaders that will work well to fit most needs.. Some may say that the different loaders are not specifically designed for each tractor, and that the tractor and loader companies may argue over warranty claims.. Thats why its important to find a dealer who deals in both and pose these very questions, ask to make sure the dealer will stand by his equipment.Also make sure the loader will operate with in the tractor manufacturers maximum lift parameters, this is to stay covered by the tractor warranty. I asked mine and he assured me that my loader was approved by Kioti, along with another Woods model..Ironically i had a valve fail on my loader and it was replaced no questions asked, my dealer actually drove 85 miles to my house and fixed it for me.. Hence the importance of finding a good dealer..
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #12  
Bob_Skurka said:
The TC-35 is the next frame size up and is physically a larger machine than the 29/31/33/34 . . . it is even roomier, uses an ever stronger loader, etc.


Yeah Baby,

I'm 6'4" 300lb soo bigger i like plus the seating is sooo wide and the controls are right there.... Heavan!
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #13  
The tc-30 with turf tires unloaded, with loader and 8.5' backhoe sub-frame mounted, and 9X3 standard shift, was 24,000 dollars delivered. with 0% for three years.

PS, The 8.5' back-hoe was a big deal to me. Also the size and weight of the machine so i could trailer it conveniently with my current truck.

So far very capable. I do not care much for many of the fancy stuff for my machine, I am not on it all the time like many others may be. Money was an issue for me as well.

When I was looking and researching many dif. machines, I was reminded by many to put some value on the dealership from which you purchase. I for one do not want to waste a day driving for parts to fix my machine, when something goes wrong.

Make sure you sit on and operate the machines first, can not stress this aspect enough. I felt like i was leaning forward on alot of the back-hoe stations. Also, I am 6' 220lbs size 12's and I am very comfy in my seat at the tractor. I was playing last weekend for what I thought was an hour and a half, and when I got off three hours had passed. Fun, Fun , Fun

The Kioti was quoted me almost the same just no 0%. They looked nice too.

Dave
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #14  
As others mentioned and no matter which brand you get, you need a good dealer. Try all the tractors you're interested in. Find the one that fits you. Some have a few more options than others or standard items. Make a list of what things you want on your tractor. Sometimes, it may not be a standard option but can be added. Just about everyone has a different idea as to what the perfect tractor is.
My CK30hst is about six months old with @ 150 hours. It fits me good and has done what I expected it to do. Another brand may have worked just as well but we all have to make a choice according to our preferences. I must have lucked out somehow. My KL130 loader still hasn't cracked and I've used it pretty hard. Does anyone know if the new Kioti loaders have a different crossbar? If so, nothing to worry about. You would think Kioti redesigned the new ones and only have to work on an upgrade for the old ones.
Have fun finding your new tractor. Take your time to find the right one for you because it will probably out last you. If you have any specific questions, I'm sure a member here can provide the answer.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #15  
I have a CK 30 HST with BB, FEL, and BH. Bought this in April of 05. I have 115 trouble free hours on it. Been moving dirt, grading a driveway and bush hoggin with it. The NH dealer in my area (Souther Illinois) blew me off when I wanted to check one out. Little Equiupment in Metropolis was courteous and professional in dealing with me. They got the sale. Hope this helps.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #16  
Hard said:
If you buy the Kioti skip the Kioti loader (they crack) and see if you can get a Woods loader, a Koyker (if they make one that fits the ck30) would probably be a better loader than the cracking Kioti loaders as well. There is a thread detailing all the loader cracking issues and Kioti is just now admitting there is a problem with their loaders.


This is so misleading it's scary. The problem was officially addressed by Kioti MONTHS ago. What has not happened yet is the official announcment of the "fix". I think you can buy a CK30 with the KL130 with great confidence knowing that you will be well taken care of.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #17  
rback33 said:
This is so misleading it's scary. The problem was officially addressed by Kioti MONTHS ago. What has not happened yet is the official announcment of the "fix". I think you can buy a CK30 with the KL130 with great confidence knowing that you will be well taken care of.

Misleading? Whats misleading is leading someone on and telling them that a rather seriuous problem is somthing to ignore. Who knows, maybe the "fix" will be a hack job like was done to Highbeams tractor. It surly is reason to be cautious until you know what your getting into.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #18  
While I am confident that Kioti will be able to fix our cracking loaders I also would have a very hard time buying, or selling, a Kioti loader until the issue is resolved. The tractor is very good.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #19  
serious problem indeed, but not totally widespeard and no need for total fear... to date we have seen 0 cracked loaders. I personally check all loaders when they come in for service.

just like kioti has done with the axle update on the dk55 tractors an update will be made for the KL130 loaders. If you are not aware of the DK55 axle update, kioti stepped up and sent out axle kits to dealers for ALL DK55 owners in or out of warranty. Even though we never saw any of these fail we have replaced about 8 of them.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #20  
MessickFarmEqu said:
Misleading? Whats misleading is leading someone on and telling them that a rather seriuous problem is somthing to ignore. Who knows, maybe the "fix" will be a hack job like was done to Highbeams tractor. It surly is reason to be cautious until you know what your getting into.

Niel,
I agree it's something you should know. Not as serious as a tractor starting while in gear, but something you should know.
BTW, do you tell all of your prospective buyers about the B3030 problem?
You're a NH dealer too, right?
Did you tell all of the buyers that the seat mounting has a problem and may crack on some models? Of course you do.

I would recommend a CK30, w/KL-130 to anyone interested in that size unit.
 
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