Kioti Isn't Worth the Risk

[RedRocker]

Re: Kioti Isn\'t Worth the Risk

In Texas my CK 30 was about 5 grand cheaper than a NH or Bota in the same HP range. Shoot, I don't care what you say about the brand, I know what I've got and I know how it compares to the other name brands and I couldn't be happier with what I bought. I think JD, NH, and Bota are great machines, I'd love to own one of each, they were just a bit more than I could afford at this time. As far as dealer, that's the most important aspect of buying I think, we have 5 or 6 in the North Texas area, so I'm not too worried about service and the one I bought from is top notch. The others I shopped at were good too, so it's not an issue with me.

 

[RedRocker]

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BTW, isn't Cub Cadet made by Coyote? Hmmmm

 

[Dargo]

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Gerald, I have to have some place to go. I'm getting the boot from the Kubota forum because I squeak very loudly when something goes wrong with it. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I just want quality, for it to do what it is advertised to do, and for the dealer / factory to be there for me if it doesn't. That's sort of why I pointed out earlier that I'm very well aware that Kioti makes their own tractor. They aren't simply a "badge" name who hires out a manufacturing facility to slap together some tractor parts and then stick their name on it. Without getting more explicit as to which ones (I'm sure you can figure out which ones), I'm very impressed with the players who make their own product and support their own product. The whim of an outsourced engine builder isn't going to put them out of business. As you know, I'm not describing Kioti at all with those statements.

Sorry, I took your post wrong. I thought you were telling us "outsiders" to butt out. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[DK35vince]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Kioti wants nearly or in some cases more money for their tractors as a major brand. )</font>

That may be true in your area. But come to my area and price them.
Similar sized and featured major brand machines prices were not even close!!
By the way, my dealer has been a Kioti dealer since 1991 and busier than ever..

 

[rico304]

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Kioti definately makes a great tractor, as do the big three. I was very close to buying one, but I had conversations with a dealer that was very unhappy with Kioti. Also, Kubota was VERY close in price. Kioti prices varried greatly while the Kubota dealers were all within $200 for the same machine. I think Kioti makes a great machine (from what I have seen and read) but when the price is so close to a Kubota, I have to look at Kubota. Especially when the Kioti dealer was so willing to let me know he was unhappy with Kioti. Bota dealers have been very good so far. Again, like many have been saying, it comes down to dealers and the feeling you get from them. That is in my opinion Kiotis BIGGEST problem. I'm sure they have MANY great dealers, but I have read so many posts that echo my findings.
And to stick up for Bob Skurka, he answered my question about tractors telling me that Kioti had a solid tractor. He didn't say any negative thing about them at all. It wasn't until I told him about dealer issues that he said I should be careful. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif If TBN has taught me one thing, it is to look for a great dealer, and there is a good chance I will find that great tractor.

 

[RedRocker]

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I agree Smith, a bad dealer is a deal breaker.

 

[RedDog]

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<font color="blue">While Kioti makes a very good product they are still an off brand/third tier brand </font>


Please tell me what your first and second tier brands are.


RedDog

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Seriously though, I seriously doubt that any other tractor company sells a 45hp 4x4 tractor delivered with loader for under 18,500. )</font>

Kubota MX5000 is right there, an M4800 is just a bit more $ but a more advanced tranny... and those are 50Hp to boot! You could get some of the L-Series gear models at that price too. New Holland would probably be a bit higher.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

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<font color="red"> ( Seriously though, I seriously doubt that any other tractor company sells a 45hp 4x4 tractor delivered with loader for under 18,500. )
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<font color="green"> Kubota MX5000 is right there, an M4800 is just a bit more $ but a more advanced tranny... and those are 50Hp to boot! You could get some of the L-Series gear models at that price too. </font>

Yet another example of the fact that Kubota is NOT over priced? 5 more HP for the same price? I am not sure of the feature set on these tractors, but if the Kubota lacks some features, it makes up for it in HP? Well that really is not new news. There are plenty of examples of Kioti and Kubota both being very competitively prices. Not that does not mean that there are not plenty of examples of Kioti being cheaper in some areas, there certainly are a lot of examples of that too. But blanket statements about Kioti being lower priced are disproved about as often as they are proved.

I would never question a person's statement who said they saved hundreds or thousands on a Kioti. . . but I have seen (a select few) Kioti owners essentially call owners of other tractors liars when they can't get great deals on Kiotis and end up buying a Kubota because Kubota was actually less expensive in their market.




<font color="purple"> BTW, isn't Cub Cadet made by Coyote? Hmmmm </font>

Yes and No. It depends on the series. The "8000" series Cub Cadets are simply yellow & white painted DK 35/40/45 tractors. But the 5000, 6000, and 7000 series are not Kioti tractors.




<font color="brown"> In Texas my CK 30 was about 5 grand cheaper than a NH or Bota in the same HP range. </font>

While I absolutely believe this, the odd thing is that NH and Kubota are OFTEN priced several thousand dollars apart, so I suspect the local Kubota dealer is attempting to make a killing on the sale of his tractors.



<font color="blue"> And to stick up for Bob Skurka . . . </font>

Wow, someone is going to take a bullet for me. I'm all giddy!

 

[MikePA]

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<font color="blue"> Kubota MX5000 is right there, an M4800 is just a bit more $ but a more advanced tranny... and those are 50Hp to boot! </font>
Finally, some facts to dispel the myth that a 'big three' tractor is always more expensive.