Kioti LK3054 Flashing Voltage Dash Lamp

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The voltage dash light on my LK3054 is either flashing slow or intermittently coming on. I've read through some posts here and there and seems it may possibly be a voltage regulator.

Has anyone any tips regarding this?

Thank you.
 
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Place a digital voltmeter on your battery and with the tractor running at 1500 rpm with headlights on you should see around 14.2 volts. Typical dash light is set up to come on steady below 12.6 volts or battery voltage indicating a charging system problem. Check tension on belt to alternator and if it's not loose it's an alternator or regulator problem. Sometimes the regulator also may be overcharging the battery above 14.6 volts which will trigger the light and doesn't do the battery any favors.
 
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Thank you. I will follow your instructions. Will an overcharge situation from the regulator show on the voltmeter?
 
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Never mind. I just re-read your post.
 
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I had the same problem check you battery cables
 
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Will do M1.
Thx
 
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With the above procedure, I am getting a reading of 15.36 +/- volts.

I知 guessing a voltage regulator is indicated.
 
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With the above procedure, I am getting a reading of 15.36 +/- volts.

I知 guessing a voltage regulator is indicated.

Try doing the same voltage test on your car. My first inclination is to suspect your meter if you are reading 15.3+ volts
It is extremely rare for a charging system to fail and produce excess voltage at the battery. It can happen but rarely.

This charging wiring diagram is from a WSM for a DK40. Often models of the same brand of tractor are very similar

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Note the diode I have circled. it is wired in series with the charging light.

Have you boosted the battery recently? If so there is the possibility that a momentary reverse connection of the booster cables blew the diode.

John Deere is the one company that incorporates protection within their electrical system to prevent such damage. Other brands have yet to catch up.

The troubleshooting section talks about a relay. If there is a relay panel, look for a relay connected to the charging system.

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Dave M7040
 
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Dave,
I will look into this.
I have a regulator on the way, although I will have a week or so until it arrives.
Thank you,
RF
 
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Now I am baffled.
New Voltage regulator, battery ground strap has good contact.
Voltage dash lamp still flashes.

An observation I have made is that if I turn the headlights on (and leave them on), the light goes off and stops flashing. I'd hate to run this tractor with the headlights on all of the time.

To my untrained electrical mind, it still seems like the system is still overcharging (causing the dash lamp to flash), and by turning on something electrical on the tractor; this excess charge is diverted from the battery thus stopping the condition that would trigger the dash lamp to flash.

Does this set of circumstances shed light on the source of the problem for anyone?

Thank you,
RF
 
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Dave,
The parts manual I have does not show a diode in-line or a relay. I am looking for a Shop Manual for the tractor now though.
RF
 
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So with the new regulator installed is the voltage at the battery running still above 14.6 volts with headlights and accessories off? If so the alternator may have an internal fault that is causing it to ignore the regulator and charge all the time rather than as needed?
 
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Rusty,
I was starting to wonder about that. I should probably pull the alt and have it tested at the auto parts store.
 
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It is very important that the alternator and regulator are grounded very well. I don't have access to your wiring diagram, but a lot of manufacturers run a wire that ties the reg and alt grounds together. It is so important because just a very small difference in voltage potential at the rotor (field windings) makes a large difference in the stator windings (alt output).

I don't know how far apart your alt & reg are, but if your voltmeter leads can reach from one to the other, try touching one lead to the reg case (near where it bolts to the tractor) and touch the other to the case of the alt (be sure both cases are VERY clean where you touch the leads). With the engine running, the voltmeter should read absolutely zero volts (not even a tenth of a volt) If your meter has different scales, be on the smallest scale. If you get any voltage reading at all, try using a wire in place of the voltmeter and see if it brings your charging voltage down to 13.5 to 14 volts. If it does, then check closely for bad/loose/corroded ground connections.

If the voltmeter in the above test shows zero volts, sorry, I am out of (realistic) ideas.

I suppose it could be an internal short in the alternator, but personally, I think that would be very unusual; I have never seen that, and can't visualize how that might happen. I think it would be more likely that the wire carrying voltage from the reg to the alt field is shorted to positive battery voltage somewhere (& the chances of that seem to me to be infinitesimally small)

If the alternator does have an internal short, you could remove the (probably two) small wire(s) at the alternator, and the charging voltage will remain high...I predict the alt will stop charging.

By the way...an alternator that doesn't charge will just drain your battery....one that over charges can do serious (expensive) damage.

Best of luck! Please let us know what you ultimately find.
 
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KP
Thank you for the input.

I have not had a chance to pull the alt and have it tested.

However, I have noticed that the flashing voltage lamp also only occurs when the tractor RPM痴 are under 1900. Anything over 1900 RPM will shut the lamp off mid-flash. Not sure what it means, but I noticed the pattern.

Thx,
RF
 
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KP
Thank you for the input.

I have not had a chance to pull the alt and have it tested.

However, I have noticed that the flashing voltage lamp also only occurs when the tractor RPMç—´ are under 1900. Anything over 1900 RPM will shut the lamp off mid-flash. Not sure what it means, but I noticed the pattern.

Thx,
RF

That really surprises me! It kinda shoots a hole in my "bad ground" theory! So, does the charging voltage actually drop above 1900 RPM??
 
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It may take a day or so but I値l look at the output and keep you posted.
 
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My LK2554 has been doing the same thing for over a year now. It really doesn't bother me any so I have not worried about it at all. Like you if I turn a light on, it will stop flashing. The head lights will fluctuate brightness as the same rate the charge light does when lights are off.

I will see if I can trouble shoot mine this weekend and maybe offer a solution. Again, it really hasn't hurt anything and my battery is staying charged.
 
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K5,
Thx. I was wondering if it would be better to ignore it, as long as my battery is not over-charging.
RF
 
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Have you measured the battery voltage with the new regulator?

Do it with the headlights off and then on.

Report back please.

It is possible that the dash lamp is completely independent of the regulator and is starting to fail.

Google "cub cadet voltage sensor" and do a little reading on their warning light system. It has no connection to the regulator nor alternator or dynamo.

Dave M7040
 

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