Price Check Kioti vs kubota

[coobie]

Your still not telling the hole story but your getting closer!

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[grsthegreat]

I am sorry that my evaluation of the two tractors was interpreted as an attack on your decisions to buy a Kioti. Daedong knows that the US market is very price oriented. The history of Daedong tractors is that they got into the tractor business when Kubota was looking for a low cost manufacturer to partner with to build a low cost tractor line. The 02 series Kubota was assembled by Daedong, utilizing their own transmission and the Kubota engine and sheet metal. Along side of the 02 Kubota, Daedong stole the designs and introduced their own tractor. This resulted in a lawsuit and a parting of the ways. The "Kioti" was an exact copy of everything when they were first introduced, including the orange paint. This was settled in a law suit which is why the paint color changed in the early 2000s.

I work for a company that manufactures components for the on and off highway OEMs. We supply Daedong, Kubota, John Deere and all of the others. Kubota, being a typically Japaneses company, is firm on design and fierce on price negotiations. Daedong is fierce on pricing but is always looking to cut corners on design and material to get the overall price down.

Look at the Daedong literature and they claim the engines are tested to 2000 hours. In my mind, that is a disposable tractor. So when owners say they have had no problems and they already have 200 or 400 hours, give it time.

Really. This literature states 20,000 running hour engine testing. New Kioti Engine a Triple Threat - orchardandvine.net

 

[coobie]

Really. This literature states 20,000 running hour engine testing. New Kioti Engine a Triple Threat - orchardandvine.net

OP lives to close to ann arbor,weird folks live there.LOL

 

[paulfun9]

Resale isn't just about the dollar amount that you get for something, it also covers how long it will take to sell. A guy at an auction that I was at was buying a Kioti tractor that sold pretty cheap. He said that nobody will buy them used in Texas, but he can sell them up North if the right person comes along. It's just like comparing Toyota to Kia. Same year, same mileage and similar equiped, the used Toyota is going to see a lot faster then the Kia.

Just don稚 use the Toyota as an example. I owned 2 of them and the were both very disappointing considering all the hype. But again so have many other cars that people say are good. Don稚 know anything about Kia but My Hyundai went and went with very little maintenance sort of like they said the Toyota was supposed to.

 

[5030]

OP lives to close to ann arbor,weird folks live there.LOL

Sounds like advertising hype BS to me. 20,000 hours testing on an engine equates to 834 continuous days running with no breaks for fuel, oil changes or maintenance of any kind and 834 24 hour days equals 2 1/4 years. All BS.

Having said that, Lincoln Electric in Euclid, Ohio used to have a test facility where they ran their engine driven welders 24/7 until they puked. None of them lasted that long, diesel or gas. Kioti don't pass my smell test in that claim.

 

[JimR]

Really. This literature states 20,000 running hour engine testing. New Kioti Engine a Triple Threat - orchardandvine.net

Based on that 20,000 hours Kioti would have had to test that engine for 2.24 years. With only 450 hours on mine I wish I had that test motor in my tractor. it has been back to the dealership 3 times for the same failed emissions problem in the last 10 weeks and we still don't know what is wrong with it. I have no idea when I will be getting it back. Parts are on order for it but I don't know what parts. I'm not a very happy Kioti owner right now. I am seriously considering selling this NX4510HST tractor and buying a Pre-Teir IV tractor. It was great for the first 350 hours. If anything this tractor was used mostly for mowing and not abused by any means. It has always been maintained according to the book. I'm considering painting it bright yellow as in a Lemon color.

 

[coobie]

Based on that 20,000 hours Kioti would have had to test that engine for 2.24 years. With only 450 hours on mine I wish I had that test motor in my tractor. it has been back to the dealership 3 times for the same failed emissions problem in the last 10 weeks and we still don't know what is wrong with it. I have no idea when I will be getting it back. Parts are on order for it but I don't know what parts. I'm not a very happy Kioti owner right now. I am seriously considering selling this NX4510HST tractor and buying a Pre-Teir IV tractor. It was great for the first 350 hours. If anything this tractor was used mostly for mowing and not abused by any means. It has always been maintained according to the book. I'm considering painting it bright yellow as in a Lemon color.

If I had the same troubles that you have been threw with your kioti tractor I would feel the same way.Hope they get your problems taken care of SOON..

 

[DK35vince]

If I had the same troubles that you have been threw with your kioti tractor I would feel the same way.

So would I.
But I haven't. Fact is my Kioti DK 35 has never been back to the dealer in the 18 years (2210 hours) I have owned it.

 

[Katahdin]

I've always found it peculiar that many of Kioti's engines match Kubota's piston size and stroke right down to the fraction of a millimeter. I would love to see two similar engines dissected and internal parts compared.

 

[murphy1244]

You know these kioti vs kubota threads never go well. Same posts different day.