KL120 Loader Flexing

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   / KL120 Loader Flexing #51  
<font color="blue"> I believe some of the flex is in the bucket itself and some in the QA. </font>

And I agree!

While putting my tractor away today, I decided to do the flex. I did not take any photos, but it looked like 5030's. I had a 4x6 piece of wood with the 6" facing up, and put at the corner.

RedDog
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #52  
Steve,

sorry, i already posted on the other thread ref Bob's mis management of his blocks( /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). And after reading all these responses i am quite dizzy. I will run into the barn when i get to TN and "inspect" my loader..........!

RD
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #53  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Steve,

sorry, i already posted on the other thread ref Bob's mis management of his blocks( /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif).

RD )</font>

What is it pick on Bob day? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I don't see that on my calendar!

Seriously if you go back a page or two you'll see I did agree that my blocks were in the wrong place and I will retest. I was not able to test all weekend and I work late tonight but should be able to get out there Tuesday night to retest.

But in the interest of accuracy, we need to look at several things.
1) Any weight/implement on the 3pt hitch will act to lighten the front end using the rear tires as a fulcrum point so the test must be done without anything on the 3pt hitch.
2) We should measure the spread of our loader arms, wider spaced arms will exert torque twist differently than arms held closer to the center of the bucket.
3) We should measure the distance from the loader arm to the end of the bucket (see point #2 for similar logic)
4) Any QA system will add additional flex, so buckets with QA systems attached should not be compared to buckets that do not have a QA system
5) Buckets of different widths should not be compared each other. 54" buckets should be compared to 54" buckets. 60" to 60" etc.
6) We should compare loaders with similar # of hours (give or take 50?) to other loaders with similar hours because a new loader should have less play/slop/wear than a loader with 500 hours.
7) We should compare loaders with similar load capacity.
8) We should compare loaders with similar construction (curved arms vs curved arms, dogleg vs dogleg).
9) All tests should be done on a similar hard/smooth/flat surface (concrete or asphalt)
10) Comparing a loader with stress cracks to one that does not have stress cracks probably will show that the loader with stress cracks flexes more, but still won't give us any indication as to WHY the loader has stress cracks!


Now if we were to actually get some accurate results for each class/size/type of loader we could run a matrix and then we would have some real results. It would be interesting to see all that. I wonder if the moderators of the site would move this thread outside of the Kioti forum and into a general discussion area to get more participation?
 
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John,
I didn't consider it belittling at all, its just one of those times where what I typed and what I meant could be taken a number if different ways. I seem to be proficient at that for some reason or other. Sorry.

Steve
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #55  
Bob,
I disagree. I think a lot of people misuse toothbar's they are not for digging.... when I say digging I mean compacted dirt not dirt piles.
Thanks
Glen
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #56  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Tomorrow is race day. Our first enduro motorcycle race of the year with 74 miles in the saddle of a dirtbike. I'm getting geared up for that today.
)</font>

Could we take a short break for a race report?

How about it Highbeam?

Any mud over there?

What is the ratio of hight the front wheel is off the ground to the width of your smile? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #57  
<font color="blue"> Steve:

Is that reinforcement factory or added?? </font>

5030,

I'm not Steve, but I think you were asking about the attached picture from my KL130 FEL. The reinforcement is factory.

Don
 

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   / KL120 Loader Flexing #58  
All good points Bob. Even on the same width buckets, you should have the same width block at the exact same point on bucket. Cracks? That is why I wash the tractor now and then. Gives me an opportunity to look everything over a little closer.
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #59  
It was a day full of the beautiful smell of black organic mud burning on a hot exhaust pipe. The smell especially strong when the 300 lb bike, and 150 lb rider, are forced to climb a staircase of bare, shiny, wet roots after the 100 or so riders ahead chewed out any dirt between the roots.

The enduro is a timekeeping event where you get a list of times and corresponding mileages that you need to keep up with. The event guys made this a race of speed since only a bike god could keep up. By the end of 4 hours of 12-18 mph sections I was only 11 minutes behind the clock. Won't know the results for a few days but had a great time.

Lots of mud and lots of puddles with roots under the surface just waiting to kick your front wheel to the side for a not so gentle get-off.

Next weekend we go out to central washington (Odessa) for the Desert100 which is a real desert race. A mass start of several hundred bikes to see who gets across the finish line (100 miles later) first. Wide open sage and rocks type desert. Not a sand dune at all.

I did manage to stop on my way home from the enduro to plant 35 lbs of grass seed over a newly cleared wet area. The bare soil should be green in a few weeks and green is good.
 
   / KL120 Loader Flexing #60  
TBDonnelly:

This is huge!!! I thought, and I think others thought, that your loader was beefened by you. What I am hearing is that this is in fact a redesigned Kioti loader, improved to add strength to the access hole. Are you positive that this is how it came from Kioti? and not a dealer addition? When did you buy your tractor?

This is very important since I will require that the replacement loader be the "New and improved" version.

Thanks
 
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