KL120 Loader Flexing

[IslandTractor]

Bob,

In the "twist test" photo you posted, the lever arm is different than the one Steve posted. His has the block at the very end of the bucket. Yours is about six inches from the edge. That would tend, relatively, to minimize the twisting forces. For this type of test it would seem critical to compare identical points (kinda like the old bucket lift capacity issue with different measurement points confusing the comparison).

I'll try this same test with my KL120 next chance I get (next week unfortunately). Subjectively I notice that if I snag a big root with the toothbar at the bucket edge and lift that the bucket certainly twists enough that I can see it. That is the opposite test to what you guys have been doing but should be about the same strain on the loader. I have checked my loader and I do not have any hairline cracks a la Highbeam. Mine has about 75hrs on it (largely loader work clearing brush).

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Yes, we have already established that I need to do a retest, please read my prior post. I clearly stated that I needed to do that.

But also look at DonnyJ's post and his photo, he also did his test by having his chunk of wood about 4 to 5 inches in from the edge. (DonnyJ's photo shows his placed in a smiliar position as mine is placed). And also take a look at Dodgeram's post, he said he did his half way between mine and Steve's. He needs to do a retest too. And if he needs to retest, then so does Dargo, because Dargo does not have his all the way at the end either, his is in 3 to 4 inches from the edge.

shvl73 was the only one who apparently did the test correctly.

So there are a lot of us who need to do a retest. And from what I now see, we have no conclusions except that shvl73 probably did better in class at school because he can follow directions better than the rest of us /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Steve_Miller]

Don,
Thanks for the picture, this is different than mine and I would assume that they have started too find some of the growing pains and have tried to stregthen the loader at this point as mine does not have those extra strips of metal lining the access panel.

John, Bob,
I have a 54" bucket on mine, not sure what you guys have but if its narrower that may make some difference as to where the block is placed. It's not a really defining scientific experiment anyhow but just a thought to keep in mine as well.

Thanks to all
Steve

 

[Dargo]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...And if he needs to retest, then so does Dargo, because Dargo does not have his all the way at the end either, his is in 3 to 4 inches from the edge. )</font>

Liar, liar, pants on fire. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Mine is only about 1/2" from the side other than where the cutting edge protrudes wider than the bucket.


P.S. Mods, Bob is not going to take my comments as actually calling him a liar or that his pants are on fire. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Steve,
Mine is also a 54" bucket. But there are actually a lot of variables. The width of the loader arms would also make a difference. For example if the loader arms are set wider apart then they are closer to the bucket corner and the twisting effect is likely to be less.

So perhaps there is no need for another retest by other brands, but perhaps it would be more useful for you if a few other folks with 120 loaders would 'accurately' duplicate your test to see if what you found is common with all the 120 loaders of if it is an issue with your loader.


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P.S. Mods, Bob is not going to take my comments as actually calling him a liar or that his pants are on fire. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

Dargo, personally I am deeply offended by your comment and I urge the moderators to ban you. By the way, from now on you need to wear a sign that says "I am Dargo" on your head, knowing that you are a muscular guy I need you to wear that sign so that if I even see you skulking around Indiana I will be able to turn tail and run away like a screaming little girl because I asked to have you banned. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Glen_Ippolito]

Yea Bob please retest. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Dargo]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Yea Bob please retest. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )</font>

Get him Glen, get him!! Just don't ask him to pose on his tractor in any of the pictures. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I mean, c'mon on, how can you make a beautiful silk Hawaiian shirt look bad?! Have you ever seen that one James Bond movie where they have that giant guy in the movie they call "Jaws"? Somebody's gotta know the name of that movie. Anyway, that's Bob except his teeth are pearly white! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Also, I've seen some garage and barn floors that looked entirely too clean! What's up with that? I can't be the only guy with a dirty floor in my barn....am I? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Glen_Ippolito]

Pose I'm glad you told me about that. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Glen_Ippolito]

Dargo,
What do you think about the loaders with toothbars? I think that has something to with this. I bet if we get people to post pic's with toothbars like steve they will have more flex. If they use the toothbar for digging. I would guess people without toothbars will have less. What do u guy's think?

 

[Bob_Skurka]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ( Dargo,
What do you think about the loaders with toothbars? I think that has something to with this. I bet if we get people to post pic's with toothbars like steve they will have more flex. If they use the toothbar for digging. I would guess people without toothbars will have less. What do u guy's think? ))</font>

Glen I doubt toothbars had any effect at all. I have 3 tractors with loader buckets, I dig will all 3, the toothbar is only installed on one tractor bucket, it helps digging but all 3 will got into a pile of compacted dirt, and all 3 of them are used for that purpose. I probably use the NH more than the other two.


Dargo, personal attacks are not tolerated here on TBN. But share with us your drink recipe. Obviously been having too much fun this morning.