Kubota FEL - B series vs BX series

[Rock Crawler]

If you really wanted to get all technical, a triaxle is 21-23 tons legally, many come in over that in reality based on the driver's comments. Call it 40,000 lbs per truck even though we all know it's more.

An average day is around 10 or 12. We shut down most of January/February due to mud, but this year the gas company is supplying us with loads of #3 and 2B limestone to keep us going.

So in 24 months, let's say 6 months weather has stopped work. So 18 months give or take. Average day.... Call it 10 trucks at a light load of 40,000 lbs

400,000 lbs a day on a very normal day.
18 months, subtract Sundays since nothing moves on Sundays.

This ran December of 2017 to now with plans for 1 more year. The only thing that shuts down the companies is rain. It's sometimes stressful because someone has to be here or be coming back at least with 2 hours. My father is retired and it's primarily what he does, he waits for a truck to pull in, tells them where to set the load, and he jumps on the machine and and knocks it over or spreads/ pushes what didn't go over. If it's done right and the ground is dry, the truck is backed up and the load goes 50 feet down into the valley we are chasing. If it's wet, we drop it in front of the edge and push it, but you can push a triaxle over the edge in 5 minutes with the B2650, you can do it in a minute and a half with the C232 track machine.

Its a startling amount of material, people stand on it and we explain that this didn't exist 2 years ago and your standing about 50 over the old ground and we've filled in a couple hundred foot wide valley that so far we've filled back about 150 feet back, and we've added around 20' of width to 500 foot of driveway.... Not because it was the plan, but sometimes trucks come to fast to deal with so we started using that as a way to buy us time when triaxles are lined up the street and the driveway is a traffic jam of triaxles trying to get turned around.

Our driveway now allows them to do 3 point turn around anywhere along the upper 300' of driveway. I can actually park my RAM 2500 with my 28' travel trailer facing in on one side, turn hard and do a U-turn to leave while being over 50 feet long.

The goal is getting nearly complete. Another year and I'm shutting it down. Then we can go on a family vacation or leave for a couple days without panicking over who is going to deal with this every day. We've learned the lesson that if we leave it unattended, people will stack it and put me 3 or 4 layers deep across the entire area, and then I have to call in help. I can push a load over, I can't push 4 loads deep over.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Overall I think you will be better served with a B. I owned one in the past and it was a good machine and a good performer for its size. I currently own a BX and an MX. The BX is a great small machine but not the best at ground engaging but can still do a lot. Have you thought about a BX and just put a small tiller behind it? Could be an option. If you will be mowing your yard and such also, the BX is great. They also dig just fine in my opinion. I have used the small front loader bucket to ditch a ｼ mile of road and even prefer it over my MX for such work. The small size and great maneuverability comes in very handy. I also use the BX for a lot of jobs where the MX or even the excavator would cause too much ground damage. It is all about using the right machine for the right purpose.

I agree with this one. Different sizes for different jobs and expected outcomes. I have started to buy a disc twice from Steve Barlow and after coming to final pricing and availability he would ask me why I was buying it and when I told him he told me I wouldn't be happy with my purchase and told me to use my tiller for the job your describing which is pretty close to what I was wanting. A BX with a tiller or even better toothed dropped boxblade at full depth and then tiller is perfect for small (Acre) garden or just the tiller with a few more passes. Of course the B will do it a bit faster and a bit bigger tiller as I told you before a few pages back.

 

[MossRoad]

If you really wanted to get all technical, a triaxle is 21-23 tons legally, many come in over that in reality based on the driver's comments. Call it 40,000 lbs per truck even though we all know it's more.

An average day is around 10 or 12. We shut down most of January/February due to mud, but this year the gas company is supplying us with loads of #3 and 2B limestone to keep us going.

So in 24 months, let's say 6 months weather has stopped work. So 18 months give or take. Average day.... Call it 10 trucks at a light load of 40,000 lbs

400,000 lbs a day on a very normal day.
18 months, subtract Sundays since nothing moves on Sundays.

This ran December of 2017 to now with plans for 1 more year. The only thing that shuts down the companies is rain. It's sometimes stressful because someone has to be here or be coming back at least with 2 hours. My father is retired and it's primarily what he does, he waits for a truck to pull in, tells them where to set the load, and he jumps on the machine and and knocks it over or spreads/ pushes what didn't go over. If it's done right and the ground is dry, the truck is backed up and the load goes 50 feet down into the valley we are chasing. If it's wet, we drop it in front of the edge and push it, but you can push a triaxle over the edge in 5 minutes with the B2650, you can do it in a minute and a half with the C232 track machine.

Its a startling amount of material, people stand on it and we explain that this didn't exist 2 years ago and your standing about 50 over the old ground and we've filled in a couple hundred foot wide valley that so far we've filled back about 150 feet back, and we've added around 20' of width to 500 foot of driveway.... Not because it was the plan, but sometimes trucks come to fast to deal with so we started using that as a way to buy us time when triaxles are lined up the street and the driveway is a traffic jam of triaxles trying to get turned around.

Our driveway now allows them to do 3 point turn around anywhere along the upper 300' of driveway. I can actually park my RAM 2500 with my 28' travel trailer facing in on one side, turn hard and do a U-turn to leave while being over 50 feet long.

The goal is getting nearly complete. Another year and I'm shutting it down. Then we can go on a family vacation or leave for a couple days without panicking over who is going to deal with this every day. We've learned the lesson that if we leave it unattended, people will stack it and put me 3 or 4 layers deep across the entire area, and then I have to call in help. I can push a load over, I can't push 4 loads deep over.

That's still only 200 tons per day, with 3 machines, not just your machine.
200,000 tons would take 1000 days with 3 machines. There's only 200 working days in a year. That's 5 years with 3 machines, or 15 years with just yours.
200,000 tons isn't many hundreds of thousands of tons. It's 2 hundreds of thousands of tons.
I think you're either confusing pounds with tons, or exaggerating for entertainment.

 

[BX23S-1]

Typical forum... always ends up going sideways and off the rails.