Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)!

   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #81  
From experience, tractor fires are insurance just like other implements (baler fires very common along with combines). I have 2 remaining Kubota loans, no KTAC but covered under my farm policy. I needed to sign off that I was covering them by insurance and send them a copy of the policy. Same thing with my latest baler, a New Holland, for which fire damage is only insurance coverage. I did have an early bearing failure on the baler which did not cause a fire (caught it before it burned) so the dealer covered that by the short warranty he gave buying a piece of used, but relatively new, equipment.
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #82  
Are you still making the payments on the unit?
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #85  
I don’t know but, 60 hours on a tractor nine months old, and dealer claims it’s not covered? I would have parked on a trailer the very day and every day since with huge signs stating dealership sucks fire.
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #86  
File a claim against your personal property insurance. They‘ll go to bat for you against Kubota just to get themselves off the hook. If that doesn’t work, hire a lawyer and light them both up.
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #88  
I financed a $16k zero turn lawn mower through a bank I had no previous relationship with and they did NOT require any proof of insurance, which seems insane. Nevertheless, I insured it anyway.

Kubota offers a lot of zero percent interest deals on their equipment, but the dealer steers them into KTAC insurance which more than makes up the difference of lost interest. Your own personal insurance company will often insure your equipment for half or less than half of what KTAC charges. My dealer sold me on KTAC saying it was like "insurance on steroids" meaning coverage for things insurance might normally not cover...like filling your diesel tractor with gas, for example. However, I recently had a Kubota zero turn mower at the tail end of its three year warranty...head gasket blew on one cylinder, warped the head, engine wouldn't start. I took it to the dealer for "warranty." The dealer said grass chaff built up around the cooling cylinders and caused the problem. Kubota and Kawasaki (engine maker) denied a warranty claim. I had KTAC insurance on this mower...they denied my claim. Dealer charged me the cost of tearing down the mower / engine to determine the problem. I paid them, and picked up the mower, engine, and all pieces separately; installed new head and gasket over winter myself. Warranty tends to suck, so does insurance.

On this M56SU, its unfair to file an insurance claim if the fire was caused by a defect in manufacturing or materials. Warranty should have to pay. However, nobody will ever definitely be able to tell what started the fire.
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #89  
I don't see how a wiring fire burns this hot, or spreads to other components like that. That looks like there was something really flammable in that compartment
It could be wiring.
It could be something flammable against the exhaust.
Once it gets going, it could burn through rubber and plastic quite quickly, and look worse than it actually is.

Now, one thing that could have happened. There were questions above about service intervals. Could oil have gotten dripped where it wasn't supposed to be?

Mom just bought a little Kubota tractor. Within the first 100 hours, it blew out a rear PTO oil seal. Not related to an engine fire, but if one seal goes, perhaps other seals could also go bad too early. Thus, allowing oil to go where it isn't supposed to be.
 
   / Kubota M5660SUHD caught on fire (60hrs)! #90  
9 month old tractor and I run it for maybe 10 minutes and notice that it has less power than usual
Anyhow I see smoke out in the hood area on top of engine. I open the hood and flames spread out all the way to fuse box and the dashboard (plastic)
I manage to douse off the fire and all the wiring is now bare and burnt to a crisp. The quote to repair is at least 30k which is close to what I paid (actually I still have 40 payments due)!


Question: What could have caused it (it was plastic/ wiring burning and super hot!)...not fuel related.
The dealer told me I need to turn to insurance co; i.e it is not covered by warranty!

Obviously I don't want to spend as much as a new tractor on this; besides the wiring and the dashboard cover everything looks like new! I am getting a 6060HD delivered in a few days as I can't wait to get a resolution to this....
I rebuild Kubota Tractors. I specialize in Wiring and Air Conditioning. I am located in Waynesboro Tennessee. 904-813-4740 John Reed
 

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